Comments on: Hate Crimes- Open Lesbian Gang Raped in California

By: chris

chris — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:47:02 +0000

This is exactly why we all need to VOTE, VOTE, VOTE. Everytime. We need to elect people who will enact and enforce laws. Vote as if your life and the life of your loved ones depended on it, because it does.

By: Kat Ingalls

Kat Ingalls — Fri, 08 Jun 2012 22:09:34 +0000

I don’t think more hate is the answer here.

By: Abashi76

Abashi76 — Mon, 10 May 2010 03:16:49 +0000

That is because this state hates lesbians or any women who is not a sexually submissive masochist. Women here are totally passive and submissive, there are no longer any lesbians in California. California is the worst place in the world to be a lesbian.

I hate men in California, I hate women in California

By: What Makes Someone a Woman or Man? « Angelashafer's Blog

What Makes Someone a Woman or Man? « Angelashafer's Blog — Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:41:09 +0000

[...] and a recent alleged kidnapping and gang rape of a lesbian in California (http://lezgetreal.com/?p=651). As a sidenote, if you read that last linked article, take a moment to read the comments, cause [...]

By: Shane

Shane — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:29:49 +0000

We are all human and have mothers and fathers that love us we should not practice hate!

By: Tasha Loring

Tasha Loring — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:50:58 +0000

Michelle,
I’m not even going to be nice to you because I don’t care what you think.
How do you and other religious people go off saying that god is the way???
You have no right speaking for him! If he had a problem with me being a raging lesbian then he probally would have struck be by lighting and sent me to hell. Guess what??? I’m still living happily at that with a wonderful Girlfriend. You act like it is such a terrible thing to be happy and be yourself. FUCK YOU!
You are so ridiculous. I am fucking flabbergasted that people are as rude and selfish as you are. God loves me and all the other people out there equally the same.

By: BubbleGirl

BubbleGirl — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:59:13 +0000

What the hell was that? I mean sorry for my language but you know you don’t have to say you hate every fuckin’ thing!I mean keep it to your self asshole!

By: Moonbat

Moonbat — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:58:58 +0000

That is because San Francisco Bay is gay men territory. Although the area is safe haven and everybody loves gay men, the area shuns gay women. Gay women do not exist in California, they are leaving the state. Nobody hates lesbians more than the liberals of California, because they all love gay men.

By: asdfasd

asdfasd — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:47:00 +0000

Headline is wrong. San Francisco?

Richmond isn't even close to Francisco, if you know the area at all.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:26:00 +0000

I dont understand why they felt raping that girl would prove anything? NOTHING…if anything shes gonna be gayer then what she was before. Shes really gonna hate men now. And how can ya blame her after somthing like that happens. Im straight, and it sickens me to think that men do that.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:11:00 +0000

Sei, start using your brain to think rather than your emotions. Fine, you may disagree with Rick Warren, but do you really think this latino and black guy who raped this woman has any idea who Rick Warren is? Do you really think they ever listened to Rick Warren? I am sure Rick Warren’s supporters have a much lower rate of committing rape or hate crimes then the non-Rick Warren supporters. Why don’t you look into the real cause of the problem rather than bashing an innocent person? I would make a large financial bet that these men aren’t even legal Americans. Instead of focusing your hate on people like RW who are nothing but innocent, focus it on keeping criminals off our streets. These guys won’t be caught… there are probably no records of them even being in this country. The only way they will get caught is if they have been arrested for past crimes in this country.

By: rebekah

rebekah — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:07:00 +0000

I also want to make clear that the foul language and less than proper references used in the previous article were used solely for the purpose of emphasizing the point i was trying to make. I feel that we are all allowed our opinions, indeed. But it is not our right nor our place to persecute or condemn others for what they beleive. IT WAS JESUS WHO SAID ‘ LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN THROW THE FIRST STONE’ it is not our place to judge or condemn others even if we disagree with their choice. IT IS NOT OUR PLACE. That is left to god, or if you don’t beleive in him, then it’s no ones place

By: rebekah

rebekah — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:01:00 +0000

hey anon 2 when you start quoting your constitutional rights maybe you should know what the hell they are first. The constitution protects free speech unless it harms others, this is correct. But this means if the act of speaking causes or encourages physical harm or violence upon another person. I can talk about you and your bullshit christian ideals and it's still protected speech because THAT:S my personal opinion. You however telling us what you think is not protected because you are causing harm to yourself. Someone is gonna find out who you are and where you live and beat your cross loving head in till your retarded., And yes I said retarded. Icould say things like that all day long and you could claim Im causing harm. I hate jews lesbians retards christians muslims blacks asians republicans, and Mouthy a-holes like you who use your CHosen christianity as a Cover to hate Unchosen Homosexuals. Maybe it's a disease, maybe it's a mental disease, but it's also not a crime and Also none of your damn business. You are more than free to beleive what you want. As Am I and anyone born in America. If I want to beleive that jesus was a clown humpin homo then that's what I beleive and there IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. yOU ARE NOT GOING TO CONVERT ANYONE AND YOU ARE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BE TOLERATED EVERY TIME YOU MAKE ANOTHER POST, SOMEONE IS GOING TO TELL YOU YOU ARE WRONG AND STUPID SO JUST SHUT UP AND GO AWAY. If you call yourself a christian then i call the pope a chinese rapper. Christians choose love not hate. They Absolutely do NOT force their IDEALS on anyone, and they don't actively seek people just to criticize them and tell them they are a waste of skin. They actively practice faith and love and share the truth with anyone who wants to know and anyone who asks.Since no one here asked or wanted to know, then I would say your tirades are entirely unwelcome. YOu ought to be ashamed of yourself. Just go away and find something better to do with your time than Search people out and tell them how much you disapprove.

PS

I am not racist. I do not hate gays, or anyone for that matter. I have experimented with homosexuality as well as drugs. I no longer support the lifestyle. I am a born again christian now. I do not agree with homosexuality but I think that everyone has a right to choose the life they lead and if that is what they choose , so be it. If they ask me for my opinion I gladly give it. But I don't but on the mask of christianity and spew hate. And no, i don't think jesus is a clown humping homo.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:01:00 +0000

The last statement of this article is ridiculous, and completely negates any credibility the author had…

Read up on Godwin’s Law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

By: exinco

exinco — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:47:00 +0000

is lesbian legal? pls describe in ordinary human life

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:19:00 +0000

May I put a plug in here for the Unitarian Universalist Church. It is a welcoming gathering of any and all religions, color, sexual orientation and gender idenity. See how different peoples can and do relate to each other. Gather information about holy ‘men’ from many studies. See how they all point back to the ‘one and only’. See people with the light that is in each and every one of us. Learn how to get along. We are all one. So help each other. Let each person try to find the happiness that THEIR heart is telling them. If someone makes you uncomfortable or angry, you should look at yourself and try to correct THAT problem.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:36:00 +0000

OMG What is going on with people these days. I do not know how these heartless guys can sleep at night after doing that to someone. I wonder how would they feel if that happened to there loved one? I swear when the police catch up to them i hope they serve a long jail sentence for that. I have friends and 3 family members whom is lesbian and i would be beyond anger in that happened to them. So i want to express my heartfelt sympathy to the victim and i hope she will be blessed with her healing.

God is love and do not let your spirit be broken.
Know that there is a god and he lives. So be blessed.

With Love,
Prayer Girl

By: Sei

Sei — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:15:00 +0000

"Anytime there is an anti-LGBT initiative, we tend to see spikes both in the numbers and the severity of attacks," he said. "People feel this extra entitlement to act out their prejudice."

Links to-

"Avy Skolnik, a coordinator with the New York-based National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs, who is quoted above, notes that there has been a sixteen percent rise in anti-gay violence last year, and that was a sixteen percent rise over the year before.

Men like Rick Warren spew hate speech from their pulpits and forget the human costs of those that they hurt."

Hate speech creates a climate whereby hate crimes occur. Rick Warren helped to create a climate in which hate crimes such as this one have increased.

It also shows that you did not read this post, nor the top red alert, and really only just wanted to post in harassment because, if you HAD paid attention to the top, you would know that these men have already been arrested, and charged.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:42:00 +0000

rick warren has nothing to do with this brutal crime , when i read stuff like that you lose respect for that person’s post and it proves you dont care what happened to this poor women you just want to get your idiology out there…i hope they find these men and castrate them no one deserves this …this world is getting pathetic
but dont blame Rick Warren what does he have to do with this …

By: Michelle

Michelle — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:57:00 +0000

Well Sei i thought you said that i was about to be all alone,it seems as if you were only trying to get rid of me.If you haven’t noticed!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:30:00 +0000

omg! how could anyone do this to someone? that’s horrible i had a hard time even reading it. i am a christian and don’t agree with homosexuality but GOD loves homosexuals it’s the sin he hates and that does not give anyone the right to beat, rape, or harm them in anyway. and GOD will punish those people who do harm them. rape is a serious matter and i hope they pay for it.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:43:00 +0000

I want to apologize as a Christian for the people on this thread who claim to be Christians but have hate spewing out of their mouths. That is what is truly in their hearts, hate. God said love the sinner hate the sin. My oldest daughter is not gay but has many good friends who are. I don't support nor approve of their life style but I love them. They know this but my words, my lectures, would never change anything. They are welcomed in my home and in my life just as Christ would welcome them. Remember Jesus said, the greatest thing is LOVE. It's all about loving others. This kind of attitude shown here by Christians is exactly what turns people off to God.

My heart goes out to this young women who was the victim of this hate crime. My prayers are covering her. There is no pain on earth that heaven can not feel.

By: Michelle

Michelle — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:23:00 +0000

Dear Sei,if you don’t want to speak with me anymore then that’s fine, i respect that.Jesus never forced himself or his doctrine on anyone and i try to do likewise.I am never alone i have an angel keeping me company.Bye for now.

By: Sei

Sei — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:01:00 +0000

Michelle,

It ends here because, this is the last post I ever write to you. And, that may also be the last post you write here because, whether or not you like it, you are a guest here and we control the content.

If you haven't noticed, you and I are practically the only people discussing this in large part because no one is reading through the comments any more. Nor are they doing so on the story about the Pope.

You are about to be all alone here.

Good bye.

By: Michelle

Michelle — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:59:00 +0000

Dear Sei,A bomb thrown in my window!…this serves as a warning….walk away,because it ends here.you are becoming very impolite Sei.I don’t hate you,i have no malice in my heart and i most definitely will not stop praying for you ,you have become a part of my testimony.And thanks for telling me about Topix,for years i have been trying to get in touch with such websites like lezgetreal,topix etc.Lezgetreal will go down in the books as being the first.Maybe one day i will invite to my home in St.lucia.And that part about a bomb thrown in my window don’t scare me at all,my great grandfather came from the middle east, bomb throwing is in our blood…….

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:28:00 +0000

The way in which most animals have sex is like rape.I have this female cat and during mating season all these male cats suddenly appear out of nowhere.It sure looks like rape,but a cat is an animal.Why should men behave like cats.

By: Sei

Sei — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:53:00 +0000

Michelle,

You just proved my point. You prove my point every single time you come onto our site and spew this same fanatical lines. All you do is prove to our readers that they have no place in your world and make some of them more and more fanatical. There will come a day when your attitude will turn a person who is polite and nice into a fanatic who demands that your religion accept them, or face a bomb thrown in the window.

Try learning your history.

And, incidentally, I know exactly why you are doing this. I know exactly why you are obsessed with proving that your religion is dominant. I also know how you cling to your religious convictions like a barnicle in a hurricane because you are scared that the world isn't what the Bible, which you worship more than you worship either Christ or God, said it is.

Michelle. . .I am being polite. I have been polite so far. You do not want me to be impolite. You do not want to get into an actual discussion about my views on YOUR religion. In fact, you do not want me to get into a discussion about religion at all. I have spent my life learning my faith. I have studied, and I have prayed. I stand upon a mountain made of granite.

Like it or not, I feel no need to pray for you, or hope you understand. Whether you do or not is not my place, nor my concern. I am not in the business of saving souls. I don't care a fig about your religion's acceptance. All I am saying is that you can't preach here.

Let me let you understand that this serves as a warning to you. Walk away, because it does end here. I have stories to write and you can go preach somewhere else. Try Topix, they'll love to debate you.

By: Michelle

Michelle — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:37:00 +0000

Dear Sei, like i said before i am not here to debate or force my faith down any person’s throat.I simply want persons to know that they don’t have to live in fear of rapists,there is someone who can protect them and he is Jesus.All this talk about rape rape rape, give people the solution Sei.How can i read about this lesbian who was gang raped and not care enough to recommend the best solution.And because i am recommending Jesus as the best solution i am treated as an offender/the enemy? Sei, you say that all you ask is the legal right to live your life as you like but what you fail to understand is that a rapist also has the right to live as he/she likes.we all want to be happy but some persons are only happy when they rape.Sei we are living in the last days and Jesus is about to return but before he returns all hell is going to break loose upon earth and as a lesbian you should be asking yourself who is going to protect you from the rapists who hate lesbians.There is still time to escape before Jesus shuts the door. I am pleading to all lesbians to repent and obey Jesus before it is too late.I may sound like a fanatic, i may sound as someone who hates lesbians,but i hope and pray that you do understand why i am doing what i am doing on this website in such a time as this.There is not much time. I am not the enemy Sei. You have the power to save many lives, crucify your sexual passion and love as Jesus loved. Catch some fish for Jesus Sei,Wake Up!If you think this is a debate then you really do not understand righteous jugdment.First comes the warning and then…..you are smart enough to figure it out.I remember i am not the enemy,but the enemy will come at the appointed time.

By: Sei

Sei — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:12:00 +0000

Michelle,

I, personally, don't care if you or your religion accept my being a homosexual or transsexual. In all honesty, I walked passed churches which did not accept blacks as being people.

All I ask is the legal right to live my life as I like. That is no different than any other minority asking for their legal rights. It is also no different than any person of any faith asking for the legal right to worship as they like.

So, in truth, all I care about is my rights under the Constitution.

If your religion has no place for me, then that is just fine. I have no place in my life for YOUR religion.

But, you see, you have basically demanded that I follow the tenants of your religion and believe like you do. Which I do not, and will not.

You see, the difference between a fanatic and a non-fanatic is that, a non-fanatic couldn't give two figs for what you believe or accept.

You want to debate that, fine. You'll be debating it alone.

By: Michelle

Michelle — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:25:00 +0000

Dear Sei, gays and lesbians are also fanatics; fanatics how claim that their faith in homosexuality has the right to be accepted as any religion.So i ain’t going nowhere else i have found the fanatics of all fanatics.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:04:00 +0000

This life is a mess.

By: Sei

Sei — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:43:00 +0000

Michelle,

I hate to break this to you, but every fanatic claims that their religion is the one true religion. Every fanatic claims that their faith is the one true faith. Every fanatic claims that their God is the one true God.

You can go debate that with them.

By: Michelle

Michelle — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:10:00 +0000

Sei,Judas was an apostle yet he betrayed jesus for 30 pieces of silver.Saul of tarsus really thought he was pleasing god by murdering christians.persons who rape and kill in God’s name do not fully understand God and it is this perverted understanding about God which deceives them into believing that what they do is right.Jesus will never tell a man to rape his neighbour’s wife.jesus will never tell a woman to murder her abusive husband.It is misguided souls who claim to be under God’s control while they commit these acts of wickedness.Rapists,murderers and genocidal killers may say that they have faith in God but they are Liars.Terrorists have strong faith in their God but their God is not The true god. the true God is a God of righteousness and compassion and these are the qualities jesus possessed.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:44:00 +0000

I hate rapists with a vengeance.Sometimes i dream about having supernatural power that would enable me to find them and kill them.

By: Sei

Sei — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:56:00 +0000

Michelle,

I say to that, learn your history. Many rapists, murderers, and genocidal killers believe in God, and believe in Him strongly enough to do this in His name. Some of them had faiths in God much, much stronger than yours.

By: Michelle

Michelle — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:29:00 +0000

Hello Sei,i know that many women live their entire lives without being raped,but i also know that many rapists rape and rape and rape and never get caught.These rapist also do not have my faith in Jesus.

By: Sei

Sei — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:38:00 +0000

Michelle,

I am going to tell you what I tell EVERY person who pulls THAT argument on this board.

Freedom of Speech extends only to the government. This is a private site, and we can, and have, removed people's comments before now.

Beyond that, your faith is your business. I have met many a women who have never been raped, and they do not have your faith in Jesus.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:37:00 +0000

Obama can’t even help himself farless us.Very soon he will be riding the B.E.A.S.T.And then the whole world will begin to wonder.All his promises are lies lies lies.His two daughters are potential victims of rape as all others,but blessed are those who believe in good angels.There is evil but there is good and good will prevail in the end.

By: MICHELLE

MICHELLE — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:27:00 +0000

I also recommend you not try to debate this????? This sounds so rude,whatever happened to free speech Sei? I am not here to debate.I am here to let others know that rape is a problem with a solution and Jesus is the solution.Why be so concerned about a lesbian being gang raped and not care enough to recommend the solution.The solution to rape is not catching the rapist after the rape has occurred, but preventing the rape from taking place.I am not here to force jesus down any body’s throat,i am simply recommending the solution which has worked for me with the hope that someone may understand that jesus can protect them from becoming the next victim of rape.Many people know him as jesus of nazareth,but i know him for myself and this is why i call him jesus of michelle.I have witnessed his power and his supernatural protection therefore i must let others know that jesus of michelle can also become their jesus,their protector.I am not debating i am trying to prevent a rape from happening…….

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:09:00 +0000

have hope!!! obama is hope he will help us all.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:03:00 +0000

all lies………..

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:40:00 +0000

one day there will be no more rapists alive.The angels are coming soon.

By: darrin

darrin — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:19:00 +0000

What has always confused me is that when the most no-doubt-earnest of evangelicals cite the New Testament concerning homosexuality, the verses they invariably cite don’t in fact refer to homosexual behaviour at all. Greek grammar rules work the same way English grammar rules do: pronouns refer back to nouns. In one verse, the noun referred back to is ‘idol-worshipper’, which is not a synonym for ‘homosexual’ — at least in any language with which I’m presently familiar. The second popular quote references participation in the fertility ceremonies which involved group sex. It may be that the people of my acquaintance are particularly conservative, but none of them have ever engaged in group sex during a fertility ceremony or at any other time.
I think the saddest thing about Christianity is that so many of its adherents apparently quote the Bible without actually reading it. Or reading the Ten Commandments, for that matter, the first of which requires one to believe in God with all their heart, strength, and mind. That would seem to make it very clear that God never intended faith to be a licence to dispense with reason. As to Christ, he stated very clearly what kind of behaviour he valued: feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, etcetera: in short, the doing of practical good. Nowhere did he suggest that hatred, violence,and usurping the prerogative of God by passing judgment on one’s fellows would be approved: indeed, on a number of occasions, he said quite the reverse. Unless, of course, “judge not, lest ye be judged” and “I tell you, even he who says ‘Raca’ to his brother is liable to judgement” are somehow more obscure than they appear to be at first reading.
All one can say is that anyone who approves rape is not a theist of any sort, merely a case of arrested emotional development who enjoys spewing malice. And any Christian who’s more concerned with passing judgment on other people’s behaviour than with seeing to their own should definitely reread their Bible. In fact, I suspect that anyone who uses Christianity as an excuse to condemn or encourage violence against anyone is likely to find themselves in far hotter water than the people they’re condemning.
Then again, if I believe anything, it’s that God expects anyone who believes in him to act like a rational adult. So when someone proposes that the legalizing of same-sex marriages would result in people wanting to marry their Pekingese, I can only take it that they’re neither rational nor a theist — because neither a rational person nor a mature Christian would be able to make such a statement and keep a straight face.
Pardon the vent.

By: Sei

Sei — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:35:00 +0000

Michelle,

You have made a presumption in your last statement. I recommend that you may want to really consider what it is.

I also recommend you not try to debate this.

By: MICHELLE

MICHELLE — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:28:00 +0000

Sei, I am not mixing up Jesus Christ and paul of Tarsus. To say Jesus of Saul is not wrong.Jesus of Nazareth,jesus of mary, jesus of saul,jesus of michelle;jesus of every believer! And to the gay and lesbian christians,the seed of jonathan is protected by an everlasting covenant; THE SURE MERCIES OF DAVID. Jonathan and David were not homosexual they loved each other.Their love was pleasant and wonderful,it was not sexual.But then and again who am i to judge…..it is written,let everyone workout their own salvation with fear and trembling;but sei if Jesus wants you he can get you and then he will be called JESUS of SEI.

By: Sei

Sei — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:32:00 +0000

Oh, and Michelle, I have never seen Jesus Christ referred to as Jesus of Saul. I have seen him referred to by many other names. You are mixing up Jesus Christ and Saul of Tarses.

By: Sei

Sei — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:29:00 +0000

Anonymous-

A Transsexual is an individual who is born of one sex but possesses the gender opposite that sex. A trans-lesbian is a transwoman who is sexually attracted to women. I am not a man becoming a lesbian. I am a transwoman, and I am attracted to women.

Michelle-

You can keep your self-righteous feelings to yourself. I keep my religious beliefs to myself. I have debated religion numerous times over the years, and, I hate to tell you this, but so far, not a single one has so much as budged my religious beliefs. I would be far more concerned about the number of gay and lesbian Christians you have offended with your statements.

By: MICHELLE

MICHELLE — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:19:00 +0000

Sei,If Jesus of Saul,saul of tarsus wants you he can get you.If you hear him knocking on your door,let him in.Sei,Sei,Sei……Jesus’love is the best.Open up your heart and let him in.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:08:00 +0000

Trans-Lesbian??? What is that? Is this a man becoming a lesbian?

By: Sei

Sei — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:59:00 +0000

Michelle,

I sit here and ponder what you have written and try to explain to you why what you have said is offensive. The fact that you saw fit to end your last comment with "a lesbian is just someone who has not felt the love of God" IS offensive to many Christians who disagree with you.

The fact that you have gone through what you have because you supposedly look like a lesbian and yet still holds in your heart and mind this prejudice tells me that you have not learned a lesson in tolerance.

I disagree with your religious views, but I would remind you that not everyone agrees with you.