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	<title>Comments on: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Op/Ed writer ashamed of fellow Christians</title>
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		<title>By: Angelle Guyette</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/01/pittsburgh-post-gazette-oped-writer-ashamed-of-fellow-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-282974</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelle Guyette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 08:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Ms. Kerr for that wonderful post about my article in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. I&#039;m straight, so I didn&#039;t know about this page - just stumbled over it now, 3 years later while trying to figure out how I&#039;m connected to all these other images that pop up with my name on Google.

It&#039;s still relevant now, though, and even more so as the full scope of human rights arrives in view of a greater awareness of LGBT2 issues around the world.

Straight or gay, it doesn&#039;t matter what you are -- but the people you care about can be killed for who they are or what they look like they are.

If you or people you know travel overseas, you&#039;d better hope that you or they look &quot;man enough&quot; or &quot;woman enough&quot; not to raise the eyebrows of those whose job it is to purge their societies of homosexuals.

Human rights are not about Gay or Straight. Being at a party on a boat can put you in line for execution --52 men in Cairo arrested on that charge. 

I have male friends from Arab countries and 2 of them have boasted that if a man approached them in such a way in their country, they would kill him. In America, it has been difficult, but they have had to learn to restrain themselves. (Poor things.)

I understand the state rules are based on religious texts, but I simply don&#039;t understand this business of straight men needing to beat up a man because he is gay. If I were a heterosexual man and I lived in a country where I were allowed to have more than one wife, I would be grateful to have a large gay population around -- less competition!

And this leads me to Mr. Guerry. I am quite certain that Muslims consider themselves married to all of their wives, and that the Mormons married to more than one wife consider themselves married as well.

Look in the dictionary prior to all this ridiculous linguistical posturing, and you will find definitions of polygamy and polygyny defined as &quot;marriage&quot; to either more than one wife or more than one husband.

Not everybody accepts the Bible as the standard for their faith, that&#039;s why we have a separation between Church and State.

Never mind the differences between the definition of a marriage vs a civil union and all the ways those definitions are used to prevent same sex couples from the same benefits they paid into, that you simply expect as a straight man.

Marriage -- as a public and spiritual union -- is part of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

For every letter of the law there is a loophole. But when people are married in spirit and in truth, that bond is more than a bit of metal on a finger or a signature on a page.

Just because you and like-minded people feel that same sex love is &quot;sinful&quot; does not mean my God agrees with you.  Why should you have the right to keep people of faith from joining before God in Holy ceremonies of their choosing?

I&#039;ve had enough good Christian fiances to tell you and your faithful to work on keeping your own marriage vows pure before you go imposing that concept on the people who have shown more Christian love and kindness to me than the fornicating ministers and elders of the churches I&#039;ve been part of.

And all that money that is spent on debating this and lobbying it? I think your tables would be overturned by Jesus Himself if he knew. Certainly, one who preached not to try to convert those with faith but to go after the lost sheep, I see evidence that He would prefer legal battle money and lobby money to go to the poor. 

Oh, but that&#039;s right, I forgot -- the most conservative groups don&#039;t want to take care of the poor, either.

So much for being thy brother&#039;s keeper.

I&#039;d like to see more love and less arguing. More acceptance and encouragement of commitment and fewer attacks on people for trying to remain faithful.

I&#039;m just weary of all this hate and I&#039;d like to see a little more along the lines of &quot;Love one another.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Ms. Kerr for that wonderful post about my article in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. I&#8217;m straight, so I didn&#8217;t know about this page &#8211; just stumbled over it now, 3 years later while trying to figure out how I&#8217;m connected to all these other images that pop up with my name on Google.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still relevant now, though, and even more so as the full scope of human rights arrives in view of a greater awareness of LGBT2 issues around the world.</p>
<p>Straight or gay, it doesn&#8217;t matter what you are &#8212; but the people you care about can be killed for who they are or what they look like they are.</p>
<p>If you or people you know travel overseas, you&#8217;d better hope that you or they look &#8220;man enough&#8221; or &#8220;woman enough&#8221; not to raise the eyebrows of those whose job it is to purge their societies of homosexuals.</p>
<p>Human rights are not about Gay or Straight. Being at a party on a boat can put you in line for execution &#8211;52 men in Cairo arrested on that charge. </p>
<p>I have male friends from Arab countries and 2 of them have boasted that if a man approached them in such a way in their country, they would kill him. In America, it has been difficult, but they have had to learn to restrain themselves. (Poor things.)</p>
<p>I understand the state rules are based on religious texts, but I simply don&#8217;t understand this business of straight men needing to beat up a man because he is gay. If I were a heterosexual man and I lived in a country where I were allowed to have more than one wife, I would be grateful to have a large gay population around &#8212; less competition!</p>
<p>And this leads me to Mr. Guerry. I am quite certain that Muslims consider themselves married to all of their wives, and that the Mormons married to more than one wife consider themselves married as well.</p>
<p>Look in the dictionary prior to all this ridiculous linguistical posturing, and you will find definitions of polygamy and polygyny defined as &#8220;marriage&#8221; to either more than one wife or more than one husband.</p>
<p>Not everybody accepts the Bible as the standard for their faith, that&#8217;s why we have a separation between Church and State.</p>
<p>Never mind the differences between the definition of a marriage vs a civil union and all the ways those definitions are used to prevent same sex couples from the same benefits they paid into, that you simply expect as a straight man.</p>
<p>Marriage &#8212; as a public and spiritual union &#8212; is part of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.</p>
<p>For every letter of the law there is a loophole. But when people are married in spirit and in truth, that bond is more than a bit of metal on a finger or a signature on a page.</p>
<p>Just because you and like-minded people feel that same sex love is &#8220;sinful&#8221; does not mean my God agrees with you.  Why should you have the right to keep people of faith from joining before God in Holy ceremonies of their choosing?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had enough good Christian fiances to tell you and your faithful to work on keeping your own marriage vows pure before you go imposing that concept on the people who have shown more Christian love and kindness to me than the fornicating ministers and elders of the churches I&#8217;ve been part of.</p>
<p>And all that money that is spent on debating this and lobbying it? I think your tables would be overturned by Jesus Himself if he knew. Certainly, one who preached not to try to convert those with faith but to go after the lost sheep, I see evidence that He would prefer legal battle money and lobby money to go to the poor. </p>
<p>Oh, but that&#8217;s right, I forgot &#8212; the most conservative groups don&#8217;t want to take care of the poor, either.</p>
<p>So much for being thy brother&#8217;s keeper.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see more love and less arguing. More acceptance and encouragement of commitment and fewer attacks on people for trying to remain faithful.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just weary of all this hate and I&#8217;d like to see a little more along the lines of &#8220;Love one another.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: James Guerry</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/01/pittsburgh-post-gazette-oped-writer-ashamed-of-fellow-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-3122</link>
		<dc:creator>James Guerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please, you cannot legislate love or hatred.  What bothers some people, Christian and non Christian alike, is that the government, you, and the &quot;protected classess&quot; are trying to change some of the basic laws of this land.  Where does this stop?  I am of Italian-German descent.  Why shouldn&#039;t I get some preferential treatment.  Surely, those with the same heritage as me could be classified as a minority, therefore receiving &#039;protected class&#039; status.  How about we all just teach our children at home, not at school, and not from the judicial bench, and not from the political sphere, the difference between right and wrong.  The Bible preaches tolerance but please tell me where it says we should agree on things and make laws in favor of things that are not necessarily viewed as morally sound by many people in this country.  Why does the gay community want to have marraige?  Is it not enough to be allowed recognition, and protection, and ability to have the same rights as married heterosexual couple without the marraige tag?  Why continue to push and push, to try to change what everyone was taught to believe...that marraige is between a man and a woman.  You push too much and what happens you push tolerant people away, to the point where they say ENOUGH!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, you cannot legislate love or hatred.  What bothers some people, Christian and non Christian alike, is that the government, you, and the &#8220;protected classess&#8221; are trying to change some of the basic laws of this land.  Where does this stop?  I am of Italian-German descent.  Why shouldn&#8217;t I get some preferential treatment.  Surely, those with the same heritage as me could be classified as a minority, therefore receiving &#8216;protected class&#8217; status.  How about we all just teach our children at home, not at school, and not from the judicial bench, and not from the political sphere, the difference between right and wrong.  The Bible preaches tolerance but please tell me where it says we should agree on things and make laws in favor of things that are not necessarily viewed as morally sound by many people in this country.  Why does the gay community want to have marraige?  Is it not enough to be allowed recognition, and protection, and ability to have the same rights as married heterosexual couple without the marraige tag?  Why continue to push and push, to try to change what everyone was taught to believe&#8230;that marraige is between a man and a woman.  You push too much and what happens you push tolerant people away, to the point where they say ENOUGH!</p>
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