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	<title>Comments on: Tempers flare and emotions show during Nevada gay rights bill debates</title>
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		<title>By: Emelye Waldherr</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/03/temper-flare-and-emotions-show-during-nevada-gay-rights-bill-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-3839</link>
		<dc:creator>Emelye Waldherr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to having no examples of a trans person ever harassing anyone in a public restroom, it is also true that in the states, counties, cities and towns that include gender identity and expression in their non discrimination laws, no one, no matter how they are dressed, has ever gotten away with any criminal activity under such a law.  That&#039;s because criminal behavior by anyone, trans or not, is still criminal behavior, no matter what the non discrimination law says.

Right wing christianist propaganda will use religious rhetoric to fight bills such as this.  Their dishonesty, however, betrays their moral and intellectual bankruptcy and shows it to the world, if the world has its eyes open.  Non discrimination laws do not affect safety, they do not affect the legal practice of religion.  Religious practice does NOT afford special rights to discriminate.

P call for the people and Senate of Nevada to support and pass this bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to having no examples of a trans person ever harassing anyone in a public restroom, it is also true that in the states, counties, cities and towns that include gender identity and expression in their non discrimination laws, no one, no matter how they are dressed, has ever gotten away with any criminal activity under such a law.  That&#8217;s because criminal behavior by anyone, trans or not, is still criminal behavior, no matter what the non discrimination law says.</p>
<p>Right wing christianist propaganda will use religious rhetoric to fight bills such as this.  Their dishonesty, however, betrays their moral and intellectual bankruptcy and shows it to the world, if the world has its eyes open.  Non discrimination laws do not affect safety, they do not affect the legal practice of religion.  Religious practice does NOT afford special rights to discriminate.</p>
<p>P call for the people and Senate of Nevada to support and pass this bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Emelye Waldherr</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/03/temper-flare-and-emotions-show-during-nevada-gay-rights-bill-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-3838</link>
		<dc:creator>Emelye Waldherr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, domestic partnership rights are much less important than fully inclusive non discrimination law. While domestic partnership laws do affect trans people the ability to keep one’s job, or place to live in the face of unfair discrimination is much more vital in terms of people’s lives and survival.

Trans people can be any orientation. Straight, gay, lesbian and bisexual trans people exist in the world, and in Nevada. Being transgender has to do with identity, not orientation. In other words, it’s about who you are, not who you fall in love with. That said, trans people are the most visible representatives of the LGBT community and therefore suffer from most of the anti-LGBT prejudice and discrimination. This translates into lost jobs, unemployment, underemployment and often illegal attempts to make a living since legal avenues have been blocked.

The first inclusive non discrimination law, one that included trans people, was passed in Minnesota in 1976. Since then, 12 other states and almost 100 cities and counties have passed similar laws. In those 33 years, not one case exists where a trans person harassed or molested anyone in a public bathroom. The opponents of this bill raise a specter of fear and loathing in their arguments but have no facts at all to back up their case. The entire “predators in bathrooms” meme is a dishonest scare tactic used by people who have no real reasons except their own prejudice to inform their opposition.

Including GLBT people into the current non discrimination law is a good idea, one whose time has come and it should be passed as soon as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, domestic partnership rights are much less important than fully inclusive non discrimination law. While domestic partnership laws do affect trans people the ability to keep one’s job, or place to live in the face of unfair discrimination is much more vital in terms of people’s lives and survival.</p>
<p>Trans people can be any orientation. Straight, gay, lesbian and bisexual trans people exist in the world, and in Nevada. Being transgender has to do with identity, not orientation. In other words, it’s about who you are, not who you fall in love with. That said, trans people are the most visible representatives of the LGBT community and therefore suffer from most of the anti-LGBT prejudice and discrimination. This translates into lost jobs, unemployment, underemployment and often illegal attempts to make a living since legal avenues have been blocked.</p>
<p>The first inclusive non discrimination law, one that included trans people, was passed in Minnesota in 1976. Since then, 12 other states and almost 100 cities and counties have passed similar laws. In those 33 years, not one case exists where a trans person harassed or molested anyone in a public bathroom. The opponents of this bill raise a specter of fear and loathing in their arguments but have no facts at all to back up their case. The entire “predators in bathrooms” meme is a dishonest scare tactic used by people who have no real reasons except their own prejudice to inform their opposition.</p>
<p>Including GLBT people into the current non discrimination law is a good idea, one whose time has come and it should be passed as soon as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/03/temper-flare-and-emotions-show-during-nevada-gay-rights-bill-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-3749</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for the Nevada Legislature to fight this.  You&#039;re right that there is already lots of sin there but 2 wrongs (or multiple wrongs) don&#039;t make a right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for the Nevada Legislature to fight this.  You&#8217;re right that there is already lots of sin there but 2 wrongs (or multiple wrongs) don&#8217;t make a right.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Leong</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/03/temper-flare-and-emotions-show-during-nevada-gay-rights-bill-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-3741</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Leong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyn Chapman uses the same scare tactics that the Bush administration used to get their way. Thank God for our new president and his commitment to unite this country rather than divide. Had Chapmen did some research, she would discover that most of the &quot;sexual predators and pedophiles&quot; were heterosexuals (OH MY GOD!). Will she choose to take away the rights from heterosexuals because of this?  People, please listen to your Gay friends and family... we did not choose to be this way...WHY WOULD WE, WOULD YOU?
WE WERE BORN GAY! With this truth, we have God on our side. God created Gays for a reason... curb the overpopulation, find good parents for children abandoned by straights...gotta trust in God&#039;s plan. (OH MY GOD), if this be true, all you fighters of Gay rights, risk the fires of hell because you didn&#039;t treat your Gay brothers and sisters as you would yourself. Oh well, it is in God&#039;s hands ...WHAT ONE SOWS, SO SHALL THEY REAP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyn Chapman uses the same scare tactics that the Bush administration used to get their way. Thank God for our new president and his commitment to unite this country rather than divide. Had Chapmen did some research, she would discover that most of the &#8220;sexual predators and pedophiles&#8221; were heterosexuals (OH MY GOD!). Will she choose to take away the rights from heterosexuals because of this?  People, please listen to your Gay friends and family&#8230; we did not choose to be this way&#8230;WHY WOULD WE, WOULD YOU?<br />
WE WERE BORN GAY! With this truth, we have God on our side. God created Gays for a reason&#8230; curb the overpopulation, find good parents for children abandoned by straights&#8230;gotta trust in God&#8217;s plan. (OH MY GOD), if this be true, all you fighters of Gay rights, risk the fires of hell because you didn&#8217;t treat your Gay brothers and sisters as you would yourself. Oh well, it is in God&#8217;s hands &#8230;WHAT ONE SOWS, SO SHALL THEY REAP!</p>
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		<title>By: lezgetreal</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/03/temper-flare-and-emotions-show-during-nevada-gay-rights-bill-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-36477</link>
		<dc:creator>lezgetreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Now on LGR: Temper flare and emotions show during Nevada gay rights bill debates: Carson City, Nevada.. http://tinyurl.com/cmg98r&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Now on LGR: Temper flare and emotions show during Nevada gay rights bill debates: Carson City, Nevada.. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/cmg98r" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/cmg98r</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: elaygee</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/03/temper-flare-and-emotions-show-during-nevada-gay-rights-bill-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-3736</link>
		<dc:creator>elaygee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imaginary god friends with a wicked book of rules are no reason to dicriminate against fellow citizens and taxpayers who hapen to be Gay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imaginary god friends with a wicked book of rules are no reason to dicriminate against fellow citizens and taxpayers who hapen to be Gay</p>
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