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		<title>By: emdubsf</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-2/#comment-21262</link>
		<dc:creator>emdubsf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more. the hrc with their chinese sweatshop trinkets and the bought and paid for whores in the house and senate need to step up and lead or shut the f*#k up and leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. the hrc with their chinese sweatshop trinkets and the bought and paid for whores in the house and senate need to step up and lead or shut the f*#k up and leave.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Raney</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-2/#comment-34057</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Raney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;HRC glamdalized http://bit.ly/DXTA1 - @TheAdvocateMag calls perps &quot;angry GAY group&quot;, misses point of radical QUEERS http://bit.ly/PahxK&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">HRC glamdalized <a href="http://bit.ly/DXTA1" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/DXTA1</a> &#8211; @TheAdvocateMag calls perps &quot;angry GAY group&quot;, misses point of radical QUEERS <a href="http://bit.ly/PahxK" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/PahxK</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: zzravizz</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-2/#comment-34058</link>
		<dc:creator>zzravizz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;The Human Rights Campaign headquarters was vandalized this weekend by Queers Against Assimilation. :( http://lezgetreal.com/?p=22182 #HRC&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">The Human Rights Campaign headquarters was vandalized this weekend by Queers Against Assimilation. <img src='http://lezgetreal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  <a href="http://lezgetreal.com/?p=22182" rel="nofollow">http://lezgetreal.com/?p=22182</a> #HRC</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Jon in Montreal</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-2/#comment-21231</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon in Montreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well now, aren&#039;t they a clever bunch.  Look at us, we&#039;re queer, we sneer, we&#039;re socialist, leftists, let&#039;s cheer.  What a bunch of pretentious, socialist, Che wannabes.  Who are they kidding.  Their screed has little to do with gay rights, I doubt many of them are.  What these critters are, are radical far left anarchist types.  Just like the looney right, the left has it;s own brand of wingnuts.  Sadly, these morons haven&#039;t a clue as to what they are talking about and please, spare me bringing up stonewall, I doubt any of them really know the story or what the struggle has been like.  I&#039;m almost 50, have been out since 1976 and yes, I too have had to deal with a lot of crap to get to where I am now, a proud, loud, out Canadian who has full freedoms and equality.  Yes, there is a time to scream and shout, even a time of civil disobedience, but please, these cowards, yes cowards, are not fighting for gay rights, they&#039;re, as I said, a bunch of revolutionary wannabes who have no idea of what they are talking about.  Pathetic and sad, that&#039;s all they are.  As if we didn&#039;t have enough to worry about, what with Limbaug, Fox, Coulter, et al, oh no, now we have the left, socialist, wannabes to deal with. Great, just great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well now, aren&#8217;t they a clever bunch.  Look at us, we&#8217;re queer, we sneer, we&#8217;re socialist, leftists, let&#8217;s cheer.  What a bunch of pretentious, socialist, Che wannabes.  Who are they kidding.  Their screed has little to do with gay rights, I doubt many of them are.  What these critters are, are radical far left anarchist types.  Just like the looney right, the left has it;s own brand of wingnuts.  Sadly, these morons haven&#8217;t a clue as to what they are talking about and please, spare me bringing up stonewall, I doubt any of them really know the story or what the struggle has been like.  I&#8217;m almost 50, have been out since 1976 and yes, I too have had to deal with a lot of crap to get to where I am now, a proud, loud, out Canadian who has full freedoms and equality.  Yes, there is a time to scream and shout, even a time of civil disobedience, but please, these cowards, yes cowards, are not fighting for gay rights, they&#8217;re, as I said, a bunch of revolutionary wannabes who have no idea of what they are talking about.  Pathetic and sad, that&#8217;s all they are.  As if we didn&#8217;t have enough to worry about, what with Limbaug, Fox, Coulter, et al, oh no, now we have the left, socialist, wannabes to deal with. Great, just great.</p>
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		<title>By: A. N. 'Nick' Cargo</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-2/#comment-34059</link>
		<dc:creator>A. N. 'Nick' Cargo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;HRC HQ, erm, &#039;glamdalized&#039;? http://bit.ly/DXTA1 Also includes pics of &#039;refabilitation&#039; #lgbt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">HRC HQ, erm, &#39;glamdalized&#39;? <a href="http://bit.ly/DXTA1" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/DXTA1</a> Also includes pics of &#39;refabilitation&#39; #lgbt</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Sham</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-2/#comment-21216</link>
		<dc:creator>Sham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately I think this post nails it- its too bad the buidling was vandalised.  I&#039;ve chosen not to give to HRC as I see it as a collective of elites who hold fancy fundraisers and really do not do anything.  Besides if they did achieve their ultimate goal- what would be their new mission?  Its easier to keep an organization alive if the &#039;problem&#039; still exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately I think this post nails it- its too bad the buidling was vandalised.  I&#8217;ve chosen not to give to HRC as I see it as a collective of elites who hold fancy fundraisers and really do not do anything.  Besides if they did achieve their ultimate goal- what would be their new mission?  Its easier to keep an organization alive if the &#8216;problem&#8217; still exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Socialist69er</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-2/#comment-21214</link>
		<dc:creator>Socialist69er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly enough, our community, wholely supported by the HRC in efforts for equality (NOT!), gets a response like this one the day after. Basically reamed! And, we should still support the HRC? http://rawstory.com/2009/10/cnbc-reporter-white-house-views-gays-as-internet-left-fringe/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough, our community, wholely supported by the HRC in efforts for equality (NOT!), gets a response like this one the day after. Basically reamed! And, we should still support the HRC? <a href="http://rawstory.com/2009/10/cnbc-reporter-white-house-views-gays-as-internet-left-fringe/" rel="nofollow">http://rawstory.com/2009/10/cnbc-reporter-white-house-views-gays-as-internet-left-fringe/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Socialist69er</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-2/#comment-21213</link>
		<dc:creator>Socialist69er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was shocked at hearing of the vandalism of the HRC headquarters. Then, when I read it was &quot;glamdals&quot; of our own community, I felt a sense of empowerment. I long ago stopped supporting the HRC due to the reasons cited in the letter by those claiming responsibility.  I was wondering where the outraged queers were at the government&#039;s lack of action on gay issues. I felt completely alone. I was tired of hearing the bullsh*t that &quot;Obama&#039;s got a lot on his plate&quot; and other excuses, which the HRC perpetuated and hoped we&#039;d all succumb to and be patient and satisfied with the status quo.  So, it is refreshing to finally see some true gay activists. Paying $250 a plate at a fundraiser is not the answer. Taking to the streets and making our presense known IS. I also want to join in the revolution and solidarity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was shocked at hearing of the vandalism of the HRC headquarters. Then, when I read it was &#8220;glamdals&#8221; of our own community, I felt a sense of empowerment. I long ago stopped supporting the HRC due to the reasons cited in the letter by those claiming responsibility.  I was wondering where the outraged queers were at the government&#8217;s lack of action on gay issues. I felt completely alone. I was tired of hearing the bullsh*t that &#8220;Obama&#8217;s got a lot on his plate&#8221; and other excuses, which the HRC perpetuated and hoped we&#8217;d all succumb to and be patient and satisfied with the status quo.  So, it is refreshing to finally see some true gay activists. Paying $250 a plate at a fundraiser is not the answer. Taking to the streets and making our presense known IS. I also want to join in the revolution and solidarity!</p>
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		<title>By: frank nowarcyck</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21212</link>
		<dc:creator>frank nowarcyck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dan: wow, this is getting hard to read, if you want my email is mkeanarchy@gmail.com we could continue this that way or maybe start a new reply at the bottom so we don&#039;t have to read one word per line?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dan: wow, this is getting hard to read, if you want my email is <a href="mailto:mkeanarchy@gmail.com">mkeanarchy@gmail.com</a> we could continue this that way or maybe start a new reply at the bottom so we don&#8217;t have to read one word per line?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kaufman</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21211</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kaufman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank: You said the Democrats and corporations want to &quot;change queers and make them the same as straight people.&quot; What does that mean, and what evidence do you have that that&#039;s their goal? And why does what HRC does vs what you want them to do have to be an either/or proposition? What I hear you saying is that, if they&#039;re not putting every dollar they spend on the two populations you&#039;ve identified as important to you, then everything else they do is worthless. Am I hearing you correctly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank: You said the Democrats and corporations want to &#8220;change queers and make them the same as straight people.&#8221; What does that mean, and what evidence do you have that that&#8217;s their goal? And why does what HRC does vs what you want them to do have to be an either/or proposition? What I hear you saying is that, if they&#8217;re not putting every dollar they spend on the two populations you&#8217;ve identified as important to you, then everything else they do is worthless. Am I hearing you correctly?</p>
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		<title>By: frank nowarcyck</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21207</link>
		<dc:creator>frank nowarcyck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s the point, mark, wrapped up right there in your end paragraph. the hrc is looking to defend you. you who has complete faith in the very same system that is holding us queers back. when you say equal rights it means something comepetely different than when a poor tranny of color has to fight for their rights. you are looking to renew you middle class priveledge whereas some of us have to fight like our lives depend on it. feel free to continue supporting the hrc, it is your organization, but you chosen sides and it&#039;s against those of us that the hrc ignores. good luck on your movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s the point, mark, wrapped up right there in your end paragraph. the hrc is looking to defend you. you who has complete faith in the very same system that is holding us queers back. when you say equal rights it means something comepetely different than when a poor tranny of color has to fight for their rights. you are looking to renew you middle class priveledge whereas some of us have to fight like our lives depend on it. feel free to continue supporting the hrc, it is your organization, but you chosen sides and it&#8217;s against those of us that the hrc ignores. good luck on your movement.</p>
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		<title>By: frank nowarcyck</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21205</link>
		<dc:creator>frank nowarcyck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the folks that wrote the communique never refered to the action as radical. they said that they were radical queers. as to your other point, radical queers have been and will continue to target overt enemies ( just check out bash back news, which although is not neccessarily associate with qaa has similar motives). this actionis more of an inter-movement house cleaning, trying to throw out the old baggage that&#039;s weighing us down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the folks that wrote the communique never refered to the action as radical. they said that they were radical queers. as to your other point, radical queers have been and will continue to target overt enemies ( just check out bash back news, which although is not neccessarily associate with qaa has similar motives). this actionis more of an inter-movement house cleaning, trying to throw out the old baggage that&#8217;s weighing us down.</p>
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		<title>By: frank nowarcyck</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21204</link>
		<dc:creator>frank nowarcyck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how is it at all like the comparison you made? in every movement for equality and liberation it has been radicals who have often times dragged the mainstream organizations on the path towards freedom, moreover in retrospect, those radicals are equally as respected. lastly, we get it. enda enda enda blah blah blah. what does that do for those of us in the real world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how is it at all like the comparison you made? in every movement for equality and liberation it has been radicals who have often times dragged the mainstream organizations on the path towards freedom, moreover in retrospect, those radicals are equally as respected. lastly, we get it. enda enda enda blah blah blah. what does that do for those of us in the real world?</p>
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		<title>By: frank nowarcyck</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21203</link>
		<dc:creator>frank nowarcyck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude, good one. man, you shore got them. jeeze.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude, good one. man, you shore got them. jeeze.</p>
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		<title>By: frank nowarcyck</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21200</link>
		<dc:creator>frank nowarcyck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;HRC isn’t bourgeois&quot; it&#039;s an interesting claim. care to back it up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;HRC isn’t bourgeois&#8221; it&#8217;s an interesting claim. care to back it up?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kraft</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21198</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Kraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To suggest that organizations that work through the system are &quot;assimilation organizations&quot; is pretty ignorant and dismissive. 

Just because Tom Amiano or Barney Frank are gay politicians, that doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re &quot;assimilation politicians&quot;. That means they&#039;re gay politicians -- gay people who feel they can accomplish something by working within the system.

Implying that &quot;the radicals&#039; outrageous acts&quot; are the primary cause of progress overlooks the fact that oftentimes progress would&#039;ve happened, with or without them, as progress ratchets up over time within the system to redress injustices too. 

It&#039;s a bit like saying &quot;Invading Iraq has made us safe, because we haven&#039;t been attacked since 9/11... therefore, we should never leave.&quot; 

There&#039;s simply no evidence in most cases to support such a tenuous link. There is, however, direct evidence that the &quot;assimilation organizations&quot; made a difference.

If we are going to take action to get our equality, shouldn&#039;t we concentrate on what we *know* works, and concentrate our efforts against our enemies, rather than ourselves and others who want to help us?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To suggest that organizations that work through the system are &#8220;assimilation organizations&#8221; is pretty ignorant and dismissive. </p>
<p>Just because Tom Amiano or Barney Frank are gay politicians, that doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re &#8220;assimilation politicians&#8221;. That means they&#8217;re gay politicians &#8212; gay people who feel they can accomplish something by working within the system.</p>
<p>Implying that &#8220;the radicals&#8217; outrageous acts&#8221; are the primary cause of progress overlooks the fact that oftentimes progress would&#8217;ve happened, with or without them, as progress ratchets up over time within the system to redress injustices too. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit like saying &#8220;Invading Iraq has made us safe, because we haven&#8217;t been attacked since 9/11&#8230; therefore, we should never leave.&#8221; </p>
<p>There&#8217;s simply no evidence in most cases to support such a tenuous link. There is, however, direct evidence that the &#8220;assimilation organizations&#8221; made a difference.</p>
<p>If we are going to take action to get our equality, shouldn&#8217;t we concentrate on what we *know* works, and concentrate our efforts against our enemies, rather than ourselves and others who want to help us?!</p>
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		<title>By: frank nowarcyck</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank nowarcyck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>qaa is by this action getting out of the movement that hrc spearheads, and what they have done for the gay liberation movement is attempt to bring it back to it&#039;s roots. when people took to the streets after the raid on stonewall they did not beg for equality, they demanded it. they did not go to homophobes and ask for their rights, they showed that they had rights that they would defend. we need to stop asking for equality as if it is something that can be handed out and start fighting back when we see people attepting to take it away. the hrc serves only the status quo and reinforces the idea that queers are currently enferior. they go on to tell us that if we just stay civil, one day people will be nice enough to treat us equally. as such the hrc is the enemy of gay rights whether they come from a place of benevelence or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>qaa is by this action getting out of the movement that hrc spearheads, and what they have done for the gay liberation movement is attempt to bring it back to it&#8217;s roots. when people took to the streets after the raid on stonewall they did not beg for equality, they demanded it. they did not go to homophobes and ask for their rights, they showed that they had rights that they would defend. we need to stop asking for equality as if it is something that can be handed out and start fighting back when we see people attepting to take it away. the hrc serves only the status quo and reinforces the idea that queers are currently enferior. they go on to tell us that if we just stay civil, one day people will be nice enough to treat us equally. as such the hrc is the enemy of gay rights whether they come from a place of benevelence or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kraft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Kraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that anyone can feel proud about defacing a sign that says “Human Rights Campaign” says a lot about how angry and irrational they are, and how self-destructive their “grassroots activism” is when turned against our own community, our friends, and those who would help us achieve equality.

This, frankly, is every bit as unacceptable as, say, a group of anti-Zionist Jews defacing the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

It’s simply indefensible, because the Human Rights Campaign was built by our community, by our money and our volunteers, and that organization cannot be summed up by the words of one person. It’s a community that tries their very best to protect our people… people who have been beaten, and raped, and tortured, who have been systematically ignored by the government, even when faced with fatal infectious diseases… and who have repeatedly been left to die alone and in pain.

When you attack the Human Rights Campaign, you attack the heart of our community. Your grassroots efforts mean NOTHING when you attack the people trying to help you, rather than concentrate on alienating or winning over those who are verifiably your enemies.

We are supposed to believe that the Human Rights Campaign, the largest LGBT organization in the United States for working through the political system to change minds and get results, is betraying us by working through the political system to change minds and get results. The proof of this “betrayal” is transparently clear, as minds are changing, and results are starting to come in at a regular pace.

We get it… you hate the system. The system is unfair. Working within the system means having to accept that progress isn’t always as fast as you would like.

But are we supposed to undermine the largest LGBT organization in the United States for trying to work within the system to create change? That&#039;s what they’re *SUPPOSED* to do! And it&#039;s necessary, because we cannot expect to achieve full equality AND protection from hate crimes through the courts alone… especially when politicians can pass laws undermining the equality that is due to us under the law. 

The fact of the matter is, the Obama administration has said repeatedly that DADT won&#039;t be immediate, because it will require legislation: Even Hillary Clinton said it would probably require legislation for Constitutional reasons... and she said this during the election!

See http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/08/obama-dont-ask-dont-tell/
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/apr/08040805.html

The very month that Obama was elected, there was a meeting with GLBT organizations and the Obama administration, to discuss their plans and strategy to get legislation passed. During that meeting, it was made clear that DADT would have to wait a little while, because it will require a complete military review of how best to implement it.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/21/obama-to-delay-repeal-of-dont-ask-dont-tell/

That article pointed out a few important things:
&quot;President-elect Barack Obama will not move for months, and perhaps not until 2010, to ask Congress to end the military&#039;s decades-old ban...&quot;
&quot;&quot;If it&#039;s part of a larger package, (the repeal of DADT) it has a better chance of getting passed.&quot; - Lawrence Korb, advisor to the Obama campaign

That, to me, suggests that the Obama administration would prefer to deal with the legislation by attaching it to a bill the Republicans can&#039;t afford not to pass... and there are only a couple pieces of legislation like that a year.

So, if you&#039;re waiting on DADT, it&#039;s because he wants to blunt Republican criticism and scapegoating of homosexuals, while still getting the military to review the existing policies, and getting their help to come up with a detailed plan on how to implement the change. This will blunt Republican criticism that he is &quot;endangering the military during a time of war&quot;.

You may not care about these strategic issues, and may want change now... but *some* change pushed through now, done in a divisive way that helps Republicans take back the House and Senate is foolish and self-defeating, especially when we can wait a little longer -- but not past the end of 2010 -- in order to get the legislation passed in a less divisive manner, with several Republicans actually supporting it. 

I&#039;m sorry you didn&#039;t know this before. It&#039;s easy to be angry and irrational when you&#039;re fundamentally ignorant of the issues involved, I&#039;m sure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that anyone can feel proud about defacing a sign that says “Human Rights Campaign” says a lot about how angry and irrational they are, and how self-destructive their “grassroots activism” is when turned against our own community, our friends, and those who would help us achieve equality.</p>
<p>This, frankly, is every bit as unacceptable as, say, a group of anti-Zionist Jews defacing the Simon Wiesenthal Center.</p>
<p>It’s simply indefensible, because the Human Rights Campaign was built by our community, by our money and our volunteers, and that organization cannot be summed up by the words of one person. It’s a community that tries their very best to protect our people… people who have been beaten, and raped, and tortured, who have been systematically ignored by the government, even when faced with fatal infectious diseases… and who have repeatedly been left to die alone and in pain.</p>
<p>When you attack the Human Rights Campaign, you attack the heart of our community. Your grassroots efforts mean NOTHING when you attack the people trying to help you, rather than concentrate on alienating or winning over those who are verifiably your enemies.</p>
<p>We are supposed to believe that the Human Rights Campaign, the largest LGBT organization in the United States for working through the political system to change minds and get results, is betraying us by working through the political system to change minds and get results. The proof of this “betrayal” is transparently clear, as minds are changing, and results are starting to come in at a regular pace.</p>
<p>We get it… you hate the system. The system is unfair. Working within the system means having to accept that progress isn’t always as fast as you would like.</p>
<p>But are we supposed to undermine the largest LGBT organization in the United States for trying to work within the system to create change? That&#8217;s what they’re *SUPPOSED* to do! And it&#8217;s necessary, because we cannot expect to achieve full equality AND protection from hate crimes through the courts alone… especially when politicians can pass laws undermining the equality that is due to us under the law. </p>
<p>The fact of the matter is, the Obama administration has said repeatedly that DADT won&#8217;t be immediate, because it will require legislation: Even Hillary Clinton said it would probably require legislation for Constitutional reasons&#8230; and she said this during the election!</p>
<p>See <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/08/obama-dont-ask-dont-tell/" rel="nofollow">http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/08/obama-dont-ask-dont-tell/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/apr/08040805.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/apr/08040805.html</a></p>
<p>The very month that Obama was elected, there was a meeting with GLBT organizations and the Obama administration, to discuss their plans and strategy to get legislation passed. During that meeting, it was made clear that DADT would have to wait a little while, because it will require a complete military review of how best to implement it.<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/21/obama-to-delay-repeal-of-dont-ask-dont-tell/" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/21/obama-to-delay-repeal-of-dont-ask-dont-tell/</a></p>
<p>That article pointed out a few important things:<br />
&#8220;President-elect Barack Obama will not move for months, and perhaps not until 2010, to ask Congress to end the military&#8217;s decades-old ban&#8230;&#8221;<br />
&#8220;&#8221;If it&#8217;s part of a larger package, (the repeal of DADT) it has a better chance of getting passed.&#8221; &#8211; Lawrence Korb, advisor to the Obama campaign</p>
<p>That, to me, suggests that the Obama administration would prefer to deal with the legislation by attaching it to a bill the Republicans can&#8217;t afford not to pass&#8230; and there are only a couple pieces of legislation like that a year.</p>
<p>So, if you&#8217;re waiting on DADT, it&#8217;s because he wants to blunt Republican criticism and scapegoating of homosexuals, while still getting the military to review the existing policies, and getting their help to come up with a detailed plan on how to implement the change. This will blunt Republican criticism that he is &#8220;endangering the military during a time of war&#8221;.</p>
<p>You may not care about these strategic issues, and may want change now&#8230; but *some* change pushed through now, done in a divisive way that helps Republicans take back the House and Senate is foolish and self-defeating, especially when we can wait a little longer &#8212; but not past the end of 2010 &#8212; in order to get the legislation passed in a less divisive manner, with several Republicans actually supporting it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry you didn&#8217;t know this before. It&#8217;s easy to be angry and irrational when you&#8217;re fundamentally ignorant of the issues involved, I&#8217;m sure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: frank nowarcyck</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21195</link>
		<dc:creator>frank nowarcyck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umm, feel free to refute what i said. otherwise you really aren&#039;t contributing to conversation. my question is, what do marriage rights have to do with a poor queer getting bashed on the streets or a kid so tormented in school that they get suicidal? how will the lobbiests from hrc fix these problems? when don&#039;t ask don&#039;t tell gets repealed will it change police discrimination against the trannies in the world? what is the hrc doing for folks that aren&#039;t like straight people aside from being queer and never want to be like that? and please feel free to bring up these facts i am ignorant of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umm, feel free to refute what i said. otherwise you really aren&#8217;t contributing to conversation. my question is, what do marriage rights have to do with a poor queer getting bashed on the streets or a kid so tormented in school that they get suicidal? how will the lobbiests from hrc fix these problems? when don&#8217;t ask don&#8217;t tell gets repealed will it change police discrimination against the trannies in the world? what is the hrc doing for folks that aren&#8217;t like straight people aside from being queer and never want to be like that? and please feel free to bring up these facts i am ignorant of.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kraft</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21193</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Kraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HRC is focused primarily on increasing political influence and involvement at the Federal level.. but the way you describe it, their willingness to be involved in the political process is somehow &quot;selling out&quot;.

Want to know who is a sell out? How about neocon warhawk-turned-”liberal conservative” Andrew Sullivan or John Aravosis, a former Republican adviisor for corrupt, indicted Republican Senator Ted Stevens?

For instance, Aravosis said:
&quot;...why is Obama&#039;s own administration putting out the talking point that they can&#039;t move ahead on gay rights until the wars are over, until health care is over..?&quot;

The answer is simple. Aravosis over at Americablog *LIED*. Nobody in Obama&#039;s administration ever said any such thing.

Since when is President Obama extending benefits to same-sex partners of federal workers, and the House passing the Employment Non-discrimination Act not moving ahead on gay rights? 

The same goes with HRC, who has led the way with ENDA. Even before the Obama administration, during the worst days of Bush administration, they led the way in getting over 260 of the largest US companies to FULLY adopt non-discrimination policies in the work place. This is a big part of the reason that ENDA just passed in the House, with a surprisingly large bipartisan majority. Republicans don&#039;t listen to gays and lesbians, but they do listen to large corporations.

As for Andrew Sullivan, for President Obama to firmly promise action on DADT, only for Andrew Sullivan to reply &quot;STFU&quot;... it&#039;s childish, disrespectful, and immature. 

Like Aravosis, Andrew Sullivan took Joe Solmonese *way* the hell out-of-context by saying he would &quot;be happy to wait till 2017. . . to hold Obama accountable&quot;. He called HRC, the largest LGBT group for bringing about political change &quot;a racket&quot;, and claimed that he wanted gays to &quot;go to the back of the line&quot;.He even claimed that HRC&#039;s &quot;real job is to get gay money to support healthcare reform.&quot;

This, frankly, is unsubstantiated, ignorant, bomb-throwing grade-A bullshit. 

HRC has been included in White House strategy sessions on how they plan to advance our agenda, and although they would *like* things to move faster than they are, the White House has not only made clear to them what kind of time schedule they are looking at on passing legislation, but also how they plan on doing it, so that it will avoid fillibusters... such as the technique we have seen with ENDA being embedded into another bill. 

Frankly, I have *NEVER* heard Andrew Sullivan attack Republicans who deny us our rights to please religious bigots with such overt hatred and lies as he attacks his own community. 

Of course, Sullivan, with his longstanding background as an irrational conservative Catholic, always displays sensitivity and uses kids gloves when addressing such special, bigoted people, with their special little bigoted beliefs... the ones that should have no business in government.

Too bad that Andrew Sullivan only resorts to hate speech, lies, and calls for violence when he&#039;s talking about killing the wrong Arabs, or attacking his own people and his own community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HRC is focused primarily on increasing political influence and involvement at the Federal level.. but the way you describe it, their willingness to be involved in the political process is somehow &#8220;selling out&#8221;.</p>
<p>Want to know who is a sell out? How about neocon warhawk-turned-”liberal conservative” Andrew Sullivan or John Aravosis, a former Republican adviisor for corrupt, indicted Republican Senator Ted Stevens?</p>
<p>For instance, Aravosis said:<br />
&#8220;&#8230;why is Obama&#8217;s own administration putting out the talking point that they can&#8217;t move ahead on gay rights until the wars are over, until health care is over..?&#8221;</p>
<p>The answer is simple. Aravosis over at Americablog *LIED*. Nobody in Obama&#8217;s administration ever said any such thing.</p>
<p>Since when is President Obama extending benefits to same-sex partners of federal workers, and the House passing the Employment Non-discrimination Act not moving ahead on gay rights? </p>
<p>The same goes with HRC, who has led the way with ENDA. Even before the Obama administration, during the worst days of Bush administration, they led the way in getting over 260 of the largest US companies to FULLY adopt non-discrimination policies in the work place. This is a big part of the reason that ENDA just passed in the House, with a surprisingly large bipartisan majority. Republicans don&#8217;t listen to gays and lesbians, but they do listen to large corporations.</p>
<p>As for Andrew Sullivan, for President Obama to firmly promise action on DADT, only for Andrew Sullivan to reply &#8220;STFU&#8221;&#8230; it&#8217;s childish, disrespectful, and immature. </p>
<p>Like Aravosis, Andrew Sullivan took Joe Solmonese *way* the hell out-of-context by saying he would &#8220;be happy to wait till 2017. . . to hold Obama accountable&#8221;. He called HRC, the largest LGBT group for bringing about political change &#8220;a racket&#8221;, and claimed that he wanted gays to &#8220;go to the back of the line&#8221;.He even claimed that HRC&#8217;s &#8220;real job is to get gay money to support healthcare reform.&#8221;</p>
<p>This, frankly, is unsubstantiated, ignorant, bomb-throwing grade-A bullshit. </p>
<p>HRC has been included in White House strategy sessions on how they plan to advance our agenda, and although they would *like* things to move faster than they are, the White House has not only made clear to them what kind of time schedule they are looking at on passing legislation, but also how they plan on doing it, so that it will avoid fillibusters&#8230; such as the technique we have seen with ENDA being embedded into another bill. </p>
<p>Frankly, I have *NEVER* heard Andrew Sullivan attack Republicans who deny us our rights to please religious bigots with such overt hatred and lies as he attacks his own community. </p>
<p>Of course, Sullivan, with his longstanding background as an irrational conservative Catholic, always displays sensitivity and uses kids gloves when addressing such special, bigoted people, with their special little bigoted beliefs&#8230; the ones that should have no business in government.</p>
<p>Too bad that Andrew Sullivan only resorts to hate speech, lies, and calls for violence when he&#8217;s talking about killing the wrong Arabs, or attacking his own people and his own community.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bilerico Project</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21192</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bilerico Project</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;HRC&#039;s Rhode Island Avenue office vandalized: What does it mean?...&lt;/strong&gt;

A few hours after Obama spoke to the gay lobby, a group of queers going by the name &quot;Queers Against Assimilation&quot; (to the point) tagged HRC&#039;s building with the sentence &quot;Quit leaving queers behind.&quot; Their statement is after the jump. Andrew Sulliv...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>HRC&#8217;s Rhode Island Avenue office vandalized: What does it mean?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>A few hours after Obama spoke to the gay lobby, a group of queers going by the name &#8220;Queers Against Assimilation&#8221; (to the point) tagged HRC&#8217;s building with the sentence &#8220;Quit leaving queers behind.&#8221; Their statement is after the jump. Andrew Sulliv&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kraft</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21185</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Kraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HRC isn&#039;t bourgeois, and isn&#039;t focused mainly on gay marriage. It is focused primarily on increasing political influence and involvement at the Federal level.

It&#039;s not that capitalism and big government is preventing progress in the US. It&#039;s that the Republicans have been blocking it for virtually all of the HRC&#039;s existence, largely to keep their religious fundamentalist base happy.

If anything, the HRC has been tremendously successful in influencing &quot;capitalism&quot;. They got over 260 of the largest US companies to FULLY adopt non-discrimination policies in the work place. This is a big part of the reason that ENDA just passed in the House, with a surprisingly large bipartisan majority. 

These US companies are more successful at influencing Republicans than even millions of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HRC isn&#8217;t bourgeois, and isn&#8217;t focused mainly on gay marriage. It is focused primarily on increasing political influence and involvement at the Federal level.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that capitalism and big government is preventing progress in the US. It&#8217;s that the Republicans have been blocking it for virtually all of the HRC&#8217;s existence, largely to keep their religious fundamentalist base happy.</p>
<p>If anything, the HRC has been tremendously successful in influencing &#8220;capitalism&#8221;. They got over 260 of the largest US companies to FULLY adopt non-discrimination policies in the work place. This is a big part of the reason that ENDA just passed in the House, with a surprisingly large bipartisan majority. </p>
<p>These US companies are more successful at influencing Republicans than even millions of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kraft</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21184</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Kraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HRC focuses primarily on lobbying and influencing politicians, generally at the federal level, running grassroots campaigns, and engaging in the political process to the best of their ability.

The fact isn’t that HRC sucks… it’s that they’ve only been around about a decade, and have spent ALL of that time until this year with either a Republican-dominated Congress or a Republican President to block change at the Federal level.

The fact is, they’ve gotten Obama to extend benefits to partners of federal employees, and have led the way on ENDA, which just passed in the House. Even before ENDA, they led the way on efforts that have convinced over 260 of the nation’s largest employers to fully adopt non-discrimination policies in the workplace. They did this work largely during the Bush administration, during a hostile political environment for our community.

Their success in getting companies to support non-discrimination policies is a big part of the reason that the House was able to pass ENDA in a surprisingly bipartisan manner.

It would be a very bad idea for the community to abandon HRC’s political involvement efforts now, when there’s finally an environment where legislation can actually get passed at the Federal level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HRC focuses primarily on lobbying and influencing politicians, generally at the federal level, running grassroots campaigns, and engaging in the political process to the best of their ability.</p>
<p>The fact isn’t that HRC sucks… it’s that they’ve only been around about a decade, and have spent ALL of that time until this year with either a Republican-dominated Congress or a Republican President to block change at the Federal level.</p>
<p>The fact is, they’ve gotten Obama to extend benefits to partners of federal employees, and have led the way on ENDA, which just passed in the House. Even before ENDA, they led the way on efforts that have convinced over 260 of the nation’s largest employers to fully adopt non-discrimination policies in the workplace. They did this work largely during the Bush administration, during a hostile political environment for our community.</p>
<p>Their success in getting companies to support non-discrimination policies is a big part of the reason that the House was able to pass ENDA in a surprisingly bipartisan manner.</p>
<p>It would be a very bad idea for the community to abandon HRC’s political involvement efforts now, when there’s finally an environment where legislation can actually get passed at the Federal level.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kraft</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21183</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Kraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HRC focuses primarily on lobbying and influencing politicians, generally at the federal level, running grassroots campaigns, and engaging in the political process to the best of their ability. 

The fact isn&#039;t that HRC sucks... it&#039;s that they&#039;ve only been around about a decade, and have spent ALL of that time until this year with either a Republican-dominated Congress or a Republican President to block change at the Federal level.  

The fact is, they&#039;ve gotten Obama to extend benefits to partners of federal employees, and have led the way on ENDA, which just passed in the House. Even before ENDA, they led the way on efforts that have convinced over 260 of the nation’s largest employers to fully adopt non-discrimination policies in the workplace. They did this work largely during the Bush administration, during a hostile political environment for our community. 

Their success in getting companies to support non-discrimination policies is a big part of the reason that the House was able to pass ENDA in a surprisingly bipartisan manner.

It would be a very bad idea for the community to abandon HRC&#039;s political outreach efforts now, when there&#039;s finally an environment where legislation can actually get passed at the Federal level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HRC focuses primarily on lobbying and influencing politicians, generally at the federal level, running grassroots campaigns, and engaging in the political process to the best of their ability. </p>
<p>The fact isn&#8217;t that HRC sucks&#8230; it&#8217;s that they&#8217;ve only been around about a decade, and have spent ALL of that time until this year with either a Republican-dominated Congress or a Republican President to block change at the Federal level.  </p>
<p>The fact is, they&#8217;ve gotten Obama to extend benefits to partners of federal employees, and have led the way on ENDA, which just passed in the House. Even before ENDA, they led the way on efforts that have convinced over 260 of the nation’s largest employers to fully adopt non-discrimination policies in the workplace. They did this work largely during the Bush administration, during a hostile political environment for our community. </p>
<p>Their success in getting companies to support non-discrimination policies is a big part of the reason that the House was able to pass ENDA in a surprisingly bipartisan manner.</p>
<p>It would be a very bad idea for the community to abandon HRC&#8217;s political outreach efforts now, when there&#8217;s finally an environment where legislation can actually get passed at the Federal level.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kraft</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21182</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Kraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, you&#039;re upset with the fact that a group whose focus is largely one of lobbying politicians, running grassroots campaigns, and engaging in the political process raises money to do what they do?

How do you expect the LGBT community to increase its political influence, its outreach, and get legislation passed, without fundraising?

You act as if they&#039;ve done nothing, when they&#039;ve led the way on ENDA, which just passed in the House.. and even before ENDA, they led the way on grassroots efforts that have led over 260 of the nation&#039;s largest employers to fully adopt non-discrimination policies in the workplace. They did this work largely during the Bush administration, in a generally hostile political environment for our community.

So don&#039;t act like HRC does nothing, just because you&#039;re ignorant of what they actually DO accomplish and ARE doing, and only notice the (very effective) fundraisers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you&#8217;re upset with the fact that a group whose focus is largely one of lobbying politicians, running grassroots campaigns, and engaging in the political process raises money to do what they do?</p>
<p>How do you expect the LGBT community to increase its political influence, its outreach, and get legislation passed, without fundraising?</p>
<p>You act as if they&#8217;ve done nothing, when they&#8217;ve led the way on ENDA, which just passed in the House.. and even before ENDA, they led the way on grassroots efforts that have led over 260 of the nation&#8217;s largest employers to fully adopt non-discrimination policies in the workplace. They did this work largely during the Bush administration, in a generally hostile political environment for our community.</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t act like HRC does nothing, just because you&#8217;re ignorant of what they actually DO accomplish and ARE doing, and only notice the (very effective) fundraisers!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kraft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Kraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that anyone can feel proud about defacing a sign that says &quot;Human Rights Campaign&quot; says a lot about how angry and irrational they are, and how self-destructive their &quot;grassroots activism&quot; is when turned against our own community, our friends, and those who would help us achieve equality.

This, frankly, is every bit as unacceptable as, say, a group of anti-Zionist Jews defacing the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

It&#039;s simply indefensible, because the Human Rights Campaign was built by our community,  by our money and our volunteers, and that organization cannot be summed up by the words of one person. It&#039;s a community that tries their very best to protect our people... people who have been beaten, and raped, and tortured, who have been systematically ignored by the government, even when faced with fatal infectious diseases... and who have repeatedly been left to die alone and in pain.

When you attack the Human Rights Campaign, you attack the heart of our community. Your grassroots efforts mean NOTHING when you attack the people trying to help you, rather than concentrate on alienating or winning over those who are verifiably your enemies.

We are supposed to believe that the Human Rights Campaign,  the largest LGBT organization in the United States for working through the political system to change minds and get results, is betraying us by working through the political system to change minds and get results. The proof of this &quot;betrayal&quot; is transparently clear, as minds are changing, and results are starting to come in at a regular pace.

We get it... you hate the system. The system is unfair. Working within the system means having to accept that progress isn&#039;t always as fast as you would like. 

But are we supposed to believe that the Human Rights Campaign,  the largest LGBT organization in the United States for working through the political system to change minds and get results, is betraying us by working through the political system to change minds and get results?! That&#039;s what they&#039;re *SUPPOSED* to do, because we cannot expect to achieve full equality AND protection from hate crimes through the courts alone... especially when politicians can pass laws undermining the equality that is due to us under the law. 

The proof of HRC&#039;s &quot;betrayal&quot; is transparently clear, as minds are changing, and results are starting to come in at a regular pace. I have heard their critics accuse them of concentrating on passing a &quot;symbolic&quot; ENDA now, rather than taking on DADT. Never mind that there is nothing symbolic about non-discrimination in the workplace... something which effects us far more directly than DADT. If there&#039;s anything even remotely symbolic about ENDA, it&#039;s that the HRC has *ALREADY* taken a leading role through their Corporate Equality Index, and their grassroots efforts, to get over 260 of the nation&#039;s largest employers to support full employment non-discrimination policies and practices.

(Yes. They did that. Sorry, critics. Your claim that HRC is a &quot;do -nothing&quot; organization is a complete lie.)      

After being ignored for decades, our President&#039;s administration is sticking up for one of their top gay political appointees who is being viciously smeared by the right wing. They haven&#039;t buckled. The President can&#039;t seem to attend a public events with the GLBT community or personally honor events like Stonewall or the march on Washington without another government policy change or piece of legislation that helps our community.

... and we&#039;re supposed to believe *he&#039;s* the enemy, as opposed to Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats?! He said back in March that addressing DADT &quot;will take some time to complete (partly because it needs Congressional action).&quot; 

President Obama could&#039;ve blown smoke up your ass and told you DADT would be an easy thing to get rid of... but he didn&#039;t. 

For people like neocon warhawk-turned-&quot;liberal conservative&quot; Andrew Sullivan or John Aravosis, a former Republican adviisor for corrupt Republican Senator Ted Stevens, to smear, and falsely misrepresent Joe Solmonese as saying that waiting until the last day of the Obama administration for any action is okay with him... well, that&#039;s transparently dishonest.. especially when HRC has unprecedented access to the President&#039;s staff, is personally involved in strategy discussions on how to get LGBT legislation passed without a fillibuster, and knows that there&#039;s a *LOT* in the pipeline.  

Bloggers like Andrew Sullivan and John Aravosis are not the community... especially when they viciously distort and smear our President, our leaders, and our organizations, and hurt our community. Our community isn&#039;t one of us, a few of us, or even all of us... because you can have a lot of people hiding in the dark, and not have a community.

The community is what we all choose to share, what we choose to build together, the space that we create together for ourselves, our friends and loved ones, and it is something some of us choose to defend. It&#039;s certainly a lot bigger than a few hotheaded individuals who use ugly words and ugly deeds in an effort to build themselves up, as they try to tear their community down.

These vandals don&#039;t own our community, have no right to hold it hostage to their naive cynicism, and are not defending our community by attacking it in such a senseless manner. How dare they attack those who are trying to defend us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that anyone can feel proud about defacing a sign that says &#8220;Human Rights Campaign&#8221; says a lot about how angry and irrational they are, and how self-destructive their &#8220;grassroots activism&#8221; is when turned against our own community, our friends, and those who would help us achieve equality.</p>
<p>This, frankly, is every bit as unacceptable as, say, a group of anti-Zionist Jews defacing the Simon Wiesenthal Center.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simply indefensible, because the Human Rights Campaign was built by our community,  by our money and our volunteers, and that organization cannot be summed up by the words of one person. It&#8217;s a community that tries their very best to protect our people&#8230; people who have been beaten, and raped, and tortured, who have been systematically ignored by the government, even when faced with fatal infectious diseases&#8230; and who have repeatedly been left to die alone and in pain.</p>
<p>When you attack the Human Rights Campaign, you attack the heart of our community. Your grassroots efforts mean NOTHING when you attack the people trying to help you, rather than concentrate on alienating or winning over those who are verifiably your enemies.</p>
<p>We are supposed to believe that the Human Rights Campaign,  the largest LGBT organization in the United States for working through the political system to change minds and get results, is betraying us by working through the political system to change minds and get results. The proof of this &#8220;betrayal&#8221; is transparently clear, as minds are changing, and results are starting to come in at a regular pace.</p>
<p>We get it&#8230; you hate the system. The system is unfair. Working within the system means having to accept that progress isn&#8217;t always as fast as you would like. </p>
<p>But are we supposed to believe that the Human Rights Campaign,  the largest LGBT organization in the United States for working through the political system to change minds and get results, is betraying us by working through the political system to change minds and get results?! That&#8217;s what they&#8217;re *SUPPOSED* to do, because we cannot expect to achieve full equality AND protection from hate crimes through the courts alone&#8230; especially when politicians can pass laws undermining the equality that is due to us under the law. </p>
<p>The proof of HRC&#8217;s &#8220;betrayal&#8221; is transparently clear, as minds are changing, and results are starting to come in at a regular pace. I have heard their critics accuse them of concentrating on passing a &#8220;symbolic&#8221; ENDA now, rather than taking on DADT. Never mind that there is nothing symbolic about non-discrimination in the workplace&#8230; something which effects us far more directly than DADT. If there&#8217;s anything even remotely symbolic about ENDA, it&#8217;s that the HRC has *ALREADY* taken a leading role through their Corporate Equality Index, and their grassroots efforts, to get over 260 of the nation&#8217;s largest employers to support full employment non-discrimination policies and practices.</p>
<p>(Yes. They did that. Sorry, critics. Your claim that HRC is a &#8220;do -nothing&#8221; organization is a complete lie.)      </p>
<p>After being ignored for decades, our President&#8217;s administration is sticking up for one of their top gay political appointees who is being viciously smeared by the right wing. They haven&#8217;t buckled. The President can&#8217;t seem to attend a public events with the GLBT community or personally honor events like Stonewall or the march on Washington without another government policy change or piece of legislation that helps our community.</p>
<p>&#8230; and we&#8217;re supposed to believe *he&#8217;s* the enemy, as opposed to Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats?! He said back in March that addressing DADT &#8220;will take some time to complete (partly because it needs Congressional action).&#8221; </p>
<p>President Obama could&#8217;ve blown smoke up your ass and told you DADT would be an easy thing to get rid of&#8230; but he didn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>For people like neocon warhawk-turned-&#8221;liberal conservative&#8221; Andrew Sullivan or John Aravosis, a former Republican adviisor for corrupt Republican Senator Ted Stevens, to smear, and falsely misrepresent Joe Solmonese as saying that waiting until the last day of the Obama administration for any action is okay with him&#8230; well, that&#8217;s transparently dishonest.. especially when HRC has unprecedented access to the President&#8217;s staff, is personally involved in strategy discussions on how to get LGBT legislation passed without a fillibuster, and knows that there&#8217;s a *LOT* in the pipeline.  </p>
<p>Bloggers like Andrew Sullivan and John Aravosis are not the community&#8230; especially when they viciously distort and smear our President, our leaders, and our organizations, and hurt our community. Our community isn&#8217;t one of us, a few of us, or even all of us&#8230; because you can have a lot of people hiding in the dark, and not have a community.</p>
<p>The community is what we all choose to share, what we choose to build together, the space that we create together for ourselves, our friends and loved ones, and it is something some of us choose to defend. It&#8217;s certainly a lot bigger than a few hotheaded individuals who use ugly words and ugly deeds in an effort to build themselves up, as they try to tear their community down.</p>
<p>These vandals don&#8217;t own our community, have no right to hold it hostage to their naive cynicism, and are not defending our community by attacking it in such a senseless manner. How dare they attack those who are trying to defend us?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kaufman</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21178</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kaufman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if one iota of what you&#039;re saying is true (and, by the way, you&#039;re full of shit), it doesn&#039;t give them the right to cause harm. Just being ignorant of the facts doesn&#039;t make your actions automatically okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if one iota of what you&#8217;re saying is true (and, by the way, you&#8217;re full of shit), it doesn&#8217;t give them the right to cause harm. Just being ignorant of the facts doesn&#8217;t make your actions automatically okay.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Bright</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-34061</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @worstofthewurst: http://lezgetreal.com/?p=22182 glamdalism at HRC&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @worstofthewurst: <a href="http://lezgetreal.com/?p=22182" rel="nofollow">http://lezgetreal.com/?p=22182</a> glamdalism at HRC</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Storm</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21177</link>
		<dc:creator>Storm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s always a place for radical action in any movement.  But if you&#039;ve got a brain, you direct that radical action at your oppressors, at the people who really have their foot on your neck.  If vandalism is your radical thing, then strike at churches and tabernacles.  &quot;Glitterize&quot;  the headquarters of the Family Research Council or the Traditional Values Coalition.  If you&#039;re going to get radical - get radical.  ACT-UP never attacked a hospital or a clinic.  We attacked city halls and government offices and the homes of politicians like Jesse Helms.  You don&#039;t attack your own people, and HRC, with a million members none of whom were cooerced to join, is still &quot;our&quot; people even when they&#039;re asleep. at the wheel..  To call a little spray paint in the dark of night a &quot;radical act&quot; is laughable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s always a place for radical action in any movement.  But if you&#8217;ve got a brain, you direct that radical action at your oppressors, at the people who really have their foot on your neck.  If vandalism is your radical thing, then strike at churches and tabernacles.  &#8220;Glitterize&#8221;  the headquarters of the Family Research Council or the Traditional Values Coalition.  If you&#8217;re going to get radical &#8211; get radical.  ACT-UP never attacked a hospital or a clinic.  We attacked city halls and government offices and the homes of politicians like Jesse Helms.  You don&#8217;t attack your own people, and HRC, with a million members none of whom were cooerced to join, is still &#8220;our&#8221; people even when they&#8217;re asleep. at the wheel..  To call a little spray paint in the dark of night a &#8220;radical act&#8221; is laughable.</p>
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		<title>By: addy</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21175</link>
		<dc:creator>addy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They got people talking to each other, at least here.  Which is more than the HRC does by talking for queers.  I didn&#039;t have time to read over every comment but it really seems worth questioning whether anything that falls outside of the realm of traditional civil disobedience is actually violence.  Calling pink paint balls/property destruction &quot;violence&quot; when no people were targeted is the same slippery rhetoric underlying discourses on &quot;terror.&quot;  Tactics that fall outside of a margin of acceptable, &quot;civil&quot; forms of expressing dissent as citizens (I&#039;m not knocking civil disobedience here either) are increasingly framed as &quot;violent&quot; or forms of &quot;terror&quot; when no one is harmed.  This narrows possibilities for movement work on just about every level.  Check out the recent Democracy Now interview detailing how a FBI/NYPD &quot;Joint Terrorism Task Force&quot; raided the Queens residence of the people running the twitter feeds for the recent G20 protests in Pittsburgh calling it a &quot;terror raid.&quot; A discussion of the glam/vandal tactics here is useful, but no one on any side of the arguments being repped here is served by framing the vandalism as &quot;violence.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They got people talking to each other, at least here.  Which is more than the HRC does by talking for queers.  I didn&#8217;t have time to read over every comment but it really seems worth questioning whether anything that falls outside of the realm of traditional civil disobedience is actually violence.  Calling pink paint balls/property destruction &#8220;violence&#8221; when no people were targeted is the same slippery rhetoric underlying discourses on &#8220;terror.&#8221;  Tactics that fall outside of a margin of acceptable, &#8220;civil&#8221; forms of expressing dissent as citizens (I&#8217;m not knocking civil disobedience here either) are increasingly framed as &#8220;violent&#8221; or forms of &#8220;terror&#8221; when no one is harmed.  This narrows possibilities for movement work on just about every level.  Check out the recent Democracy Now interview detailing how a FBI/NYPD &#8220;Joint Terrorism Task Force&#8221; raided the Queens residence of the people running the twitter feeds for the recent G20 protests in Pittsburgh calling it a &#8220;terror raid.&#8221; A discussion of the glam/vandal tactics here is useful, but no one on any side of the arguments being repped here is served by framing the vandalism as &#8220;violence.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew P. Williams</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-34062</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew P. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;http://lezgetreal.com/?p=22182 glamdalism at HRC&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content"><a href="http://lezgetreal.com/?p=22182" rel="nofollow">http://lezgetreal.com/?p=22182</a> glamdalism at HRC</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: PetrosMusic</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-34063</link>
		<dc:creator>PetrosMusic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;cant think of anything scarier than a &quot;radical queer&quot; http://lezgetreal.com/?p=22182&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">cant think of anything scarier than a &quot;radical queer&quot; <a href="http://lezgetreal.com/?p=22182" rel="nofollow">http://lezgetreal.com/?p=22182</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: frank nowarcyck</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21173</link>
		<dc:creator>frank nowarcyck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think he means that hrc and their ilk are wasting their time and money by kissing the collective asses of democrats and corporations that seek not acceptance, but to change queers and make them the same as straight people. this should not be the goal if we are to save the lives of young and/or poor queers that do not even have the option of assimilation (not that it is even a good thing).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think he means that hrc and their ilk are wasting their time and money by kissing the collective asses of democrats and corporations that seek not acceptance, but to change queers and make them the same as straight people. this should not be the goal if we are to save the lives of young and/or poor queers that do not even have the option of assimilation (not that it is even a good thing).</p>
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		<title>By: Moo</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21172</link>
		<dc:creator>Moo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s worth mentioning that the communique was first posted on the Bash Back! website, not on here. I suspect that the action is connected with people who do Bash Back! actions.

http://bashbacknews.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/radical-queers-bash-back-against-hrc-headquarters/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s worth mentioning that the communique was first posted on the Bash Back! website, not on here. I suspect that the action is connected with people who do Bash Back! actions.</p>
<p><a href="http://bashbacknews.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/radical-queers-bash-back-against-hrc-headquarters/" rel="nofollow">http://bashbacknews.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/radical-queers-bash-back-against-hrc-headquarters/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Moo</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21171</link>
		<dc:creator>Moo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh honey, did you not figure out that Audre Lourde is a pseudonym here? LOL. Also, you left your caps lock on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh honey, did you not figure out that Audre Lourde is a pseudonym here? LOL. Also, you left your caps lock on.</p>
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		<title>By: frank nowarcyck</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21170</link>
		<dc:creator>frank nowarcyck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s cool. nobody asked you to be part.</description>
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		<title>By: Replica Christian Louboutin</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21169</link>
		<dc:creator>Replica Christian Louboutin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most important factor for people is that company’s need your opinion and them willing to pay it need translated</description>
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		<title>By: Replica Christian Louboutin</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21168</link>
		<dc:creator>Replica Christian Louboutin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi from Queers Against Assimilation. We hate everyone who’s not us, hate everyone who doesn’t believe exactly as we do, hate everyone who doesn’t act exactly like we do, hate everyone who doesn’t share our approach to change, hate everyone who doesn’t hold our beliefs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi from Queers Against Assimilation. We hate everyone who’s not us, hate everyone who doesn’t believe exactly as we do, hate everyone who doesn’t act exactly like we do, hate everyone who doesn’t share our approach to change, hate everyone who doesn’t hold our beliefs</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kaufman</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21165</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kaufman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they really want to be heard, then they should take off their masks, own up to their crime, apologize, and pay for the damage they caused. At this point, hiding behind anonymous internet posts and early-morning drive-bys, they&#039;re little more than vandals and pseudo terrorists with a penchant for glitter. And no, I&#039;m not going to apologize for being white or Jewish or Gay or socialist or a dinner attendee or a marcher or anything else. The sooner we stop stereotyping ourselves, the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they really want to be heard, then they should take off their masks, own up to their crime, apologize, and pay for the damage they caused. At this point, hiding behind anonymous internet posts and early-morning drive-bys, they&#8217;re little more than vandals and pseudo terrorists with a penchant for glitter. And no, I&#8217;m not going to apologize for being white or Jewish or Gay or socialist or a dinner attendee or a marcher or anything else. The sooner we stop stereotyping ourselves, the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kaufman</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21163</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kaufman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can speak your truth without attacking someone else&#039;s truth. And &quot;they&quot; don&#039;t want to be stood with; they&#039;re anonymous cowards who work in the shadows. They&#039;re no better than hood-wearing thugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can speak your truth without attacking someone else&#8217;s truth. And &#8220;they&#8221; don&#8217;t want to be stood with; they&#8217;re anonymous cowards who work in the shadows. They&#8217;re no better than hood-wearing thugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kaufman</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21162</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kaufman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve gone from supporting vandalism to supporting armed conflict. Lovely. Against whom, exactly? Terrorists blow up buildings and people because they want to try to force people to believe their ideas. The National Organization for Marriage and their followers try to make the argument that marriage equality actually has a negative impact on their lives. But you and your ilk have taken it one step further, and claim some kind of personal harm and injury because HRC isn&#039;t queer enough for you. You see the world as black and white, either/or. How very hetero of you. I encourage you to join the rest of us who see the gray area, the &quot;and&quot; of life. As in, you can have HRC AND you can have Queers Against Assimilation. It doesn&#039;t have to be an either/or proposition. We can--dare I say it?--co-exist. But if your entire reason for being is so that others can not be? No, I don&#039;t want to be a part of your revolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve gone from supporting vandalism to supporting armed conflict. Lovely. Against whom, exactly? Terrorists blow up buildings and people because they want to try to force people to believe their ideas. The National Organization for Marriage and their followers try to make the argument that marriage equality actually has a negative impact on their lives. But you and your ilk have taken it one step further, and claim some kind of personal harm and injury because HRC isn&#8217;t queer enough for you. You see the world as black and white, either/or. How very hetero of you. I encourage you to join the rest of us who see the gray area, the &#8220;and&#8221; of life. As in, you can have HRC AND you can have Queers Against Assimilation. It doesn&#8217;t have to be an either/or proposition. We can&#8211;dare I say it?&#8211;co-exist. But if your entire reason for being is so that others can not be? No, I don&#8217;t want to be a part of your revolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Mondo</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21160</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Mondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QAA&#039;s actions have motivated me to contribute to HRC - something I thought I&#039;d never do again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QAA&#8217;s actions have motivated me to contribute to HRC &#8211; something I thought I&#8217;d never do again.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Mondo</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21159</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Mondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt they built it with your money.</description>
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		<title>By: Joe Mondo</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21158</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Mondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kids aren&#039;t killing themselves because of HRC.

What a lame case of misdirected, impotent childish acting out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids aren&#8217;t killing themselves because of HRC.</p>
<p>What a lame case of misdirected, impotent childish acting out.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Mondo</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21157</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Mondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re not democratic because they&#039;re not a government.  They&#039;re a group of volunteers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re not democratic because they&#8217;re not a government.  They&#8217;re a group of volunteers.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Mondo</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21156</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Mondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HRC isn&#039;t a government with power over you.  It&#039;s a voluntary organization comprised of people who are already denied equa rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HRC isn&#8217;t a government with power over you.  It&#8217;s a voluntary organization comprised of people who are already denied equa rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar in  Miami Beach</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21154</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar in  Miami Beach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The concept is &quot;talk good,talk bad but talk about me, do not ignore me&quot;.In that sense yes the act was succesful.As infantile and bothering it may be,it hit the mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept is &#8220;talk good,talk bad but talk about me, do not ignore me&#8221;.In that sense yes the act was succesful.As infantile and bothering it may be,it hit the mark.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar in  Miami Beach</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21153</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar in  Miami Beach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree and disagree with you.I support the kind of action that was done on the HRC building.It bring the world to see us and notice us as strong and vital and not submisive to the Establishment and its timetables.I disagree on the AIDS thing.I&#039;m old enough to have lost ALL my friends,I mean ALL, to AIDS because it was labeled &quot;the gay disease&quot;.Not until straight started dying did actual,significant research started in earnest.To me today when it comes to straight dying of AIDS I say &quot;the more,the merrier&quot;. And yes,the HRC is an elitist bunch of queers in bed with the Establishment and do not want the boat rocked in fear of losing their comfortable niches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree and disagree with you.I support the kind of action that was done on the HRC building.It bring the world to see us and notice us as strong and vital and not submisive to the Establishment and its timetables.I disagree on the AIDS thing.I&#8217;m old enough to have lost ALL my friends,I mean ALL, to AIDS because it was labeled &#8220;the gay disease&#8221;.Not until straight started dying did actual,significant research started in earnest.To me today when it comes to straight dying of AIDS I say &#8220;the more,the merrier&#8221;. And yes,the HRC is an elitist bunch of queers in bed with the Establishment and do not want the boat rocked in fear of losing their comfortable niches.</p>
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		<title>By: Candis</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21152</link>
		<dc:creator>Candis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Historically, no matter the movement, assimilation organizations have been able to make progress as a direct result of the radicals&#039; outrageous acts.  By refusing to tow the &#039;acceptable&#039; line of activism, QAA has done a fair job of making HRC seem even more palatable.  The same thing has occurred time and again in the women&#039;s movement (think NOW vs Lavender Menace or Lesbian Avengers).  

Bottom line: HRC has a lot to answer for.  QAA has maybe gotten at least a point across, who imagined it could be done with glitter grenades?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historically, no matter the movement, assimilation organizations have been able to make progress as a direct result of the radicals&#8217; outrageous acts.  By refusing to tow the &#8216;acceptable&#8217; line of activism, QAA has done a fair job of making HRC seem even more palatable.  The same thing has occurred time and again in the women&#8217;s movement (think NOW vs Lavender Menace or Lesbian Avengers).  </p>
<p>Bottom line: HRC has a lot to answer for.  QAA has maybe gotten at least a point across, who imagined it could be done with glitter grenades?</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/hrc-building-vandalized/comment-page-1/#comment-21151</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi from Queers Against Assimilation.  We hate everyone who&#039;s not us, hate everyone who doesn&#039;t believe exactly as we do, hate everyone who doesn&#039;t act exactly like we do, hate everyone who doesn&#039;t share our approach to change, hate everyone who doesn&#039;t hold our beliefs, hate everyone who doesn&#039;t share our vision of the future.  Hate, hate, hate.  We love to hate.

Signed...
~~Love and Solidarity~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi from Queers Against Assimilation.  We hate everyone who&#8217;s not us, hate everyone who doesn&#8217;t believe exactly as we do, hate everyone who doesn&#8217;t act exactly like we do, hate everyone who doesn&#8217;t share our approach to change, hate everyone who doesn&#8217;t hold our beliefs, hate everyone who doesn&#8217;t share our vision of the future.  Hate, hate, hate.  We love to hate.</p>
<p>Signed&#8230;<br />
~~Love and Solidarity~~</p>
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