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		<title>By: Jessica Sideways</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/mormons-announce-massive-building-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-20872</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Sideways</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be appalled if I had a child, they became moron and raised their children in the moron church. I would be more appalled if they thought I had submitted to the evil Jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be appalled if I had a child, they became moron and raised their children in the moron church. I would be more appalled if they thought I had submitted to the evil Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we find out where those gold tablets went to there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we find out where those gold tablets went to there?</p>
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		<title>By: Paula Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me but it is pretty cheeky to think if someone did not think it necessary to change their faith and become Mormons while they were alive, would decide to do it after they were dead. 

And yes there was an attempt by the church to baptize some 380,000 holocaust victims... that one really pissed off a lot of relatives.

The appeal for funds to push Prop 8 was issued by the church president... as an official church announcement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me but it is pretty cheeky to think if someone did not think it necessary to change their faith and become Mormons while they were alive, would decide to do it after they were dead. </p>
<p>And yes there was an attempt by the church to baptize some 380,000 holocaust victims&#8230; that one really pissed off a lot of relatives.</p>
<p>The appeal for funds to push Prop 8 was issued by the church president&#8230; as an official church announcement.</p>
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		<title>By: Bot</title>
		<link>http://lezgetreal.com/2009/10/mormons-announce-massive-building-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-20863</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are really interested in why the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) is the only one to have restored the Temple ordinances initiated by Jesus Christ during the 40 days between His Resurrection and Ascension, read:


http://NewTestamentTempleRitual.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are really interested in why the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) is the only one to have restored the Temple ordinances initiated by Jesus Christ during the 40 days between His Resurrection and Ascension, read:</p>
<p><a href="http://NewTestamentTempleRitual.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://NewTestamentTempleRitual.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hilliard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Hilliard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a distinctly ex mormon (I usualy refer to myself as a recovering mormon), I enjoy mormon bashing as much as the next LGBT person, infact probably more, but your article is full of what I can only hope is a large number of rumours that you seem to have picked up on.
Fist off, this quote : &quot;proxy baptisms in which they baptize your dead relatives, especially your dead Jewish relatives, making them Mormons without your consent,&quot;  Baptisms for the dead are classed as a sacred ordinance, but it is NOT without the families consent - the nearest surviving relative MUST OK this before it can go ahead, and as far as I am aware, there is no significant push towards Jews in any way shape or form. Not only that, but the church believes that if someone is given a baptism for the dead, their spirit can make the decision on whether to accept it or not. Not that any of this matters if you don&#039;t believe in the mormon church anyway, as the rule of thumb would be that it doesn&#039;t matter - let the silly religious freaks do their thing.
Secondly, sealing are something which, to a point, I think are a nice idea, as it is a ceremony that makes a marriage eternal, surviving the trial of death, which, in a union, is kind of special, and something I wish more religions would take on - the idea that two souls can be linked throughout eternity, whether you believe that souls are an energy form, something that gets reincarnated or otherwise, is a powerful and beautiful idea.

The final point is that no money dealing goes on in the temple - it is a temple of god and they happen to have the idea in their heads that if they do that a lightening bolt might strike them down or something - may have something to do with how jesus reacted the last time he caught people doing that at a temple...

My problem isn&#039;t that you are slagging off the mormons, it&#039;s that you feel the need to slag off non-existent policies and actions. There is plenty to slag off in the churches history, from their not allowing black men to hold the priesthood until far after the civil rights movement to the act of banning masturbation, which is ongoing and has led to teen suicides, or how about their gay reform programs? The ones that use ECT (electro convulsive therapy) to get the gay out of you? Or the fact that they throw transgender members out if they go for sexual reassignment surgery, but don&#039;t if they only crossdress in their own home (but will get thrown out if they venture outside)? Or about how they treat gay people who are caught kissing on their property?

Those are good things to bring up.

Thanks,
Chris Hilliard </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a distinctly ex mormon (I usualy refer to myself as a recovering mormon), I enjoy mormon bashing as much as the next LGBT person, infact probably more, but your article is full of what I can only hope is a large number of rumours that you seem to have picked up on.<br />
Fist off, this quote : &#8220;proxy baptisms in which they baptize your dead relatives, especially your dead Jewish relatives, making them Mormons without your consent,&#8221;  Baptisms for the dead are classed as a sacred ordinance, but it is NOT without the families consent &#8211; the nearest surviving relative MUST OK this before it can go ahead, and as far as I am aware, there is no significant push towards Jews in any way shape or form. Not only that, but the church believes that if someone is given a baptism for the dead, their spirit can make the decision on whether to accept it or not. Not that any of this matters if you don&#8217;t believe in the mormon church anyway, as the rule of thumb would be that it doesn&#8217;t matter &#8211; let the silly religious freaks do their thing.<br />
Secondly, sealing are something which, to a point, I think are a nice idea, as it is a ceremony that makes a marriage eternal, surviving the trial of death, which, in a union, is kind of special, and something I wish more religions would take on &#8211; the idea that two souls can be linked throughout eternity, whether you believe that souls are an energy form, something that gets reincarnated or otherwise, is a powerful and beautiful idea.</p>
<p>The final point is that no money dealing goes on in the temple &#8211; it is a temple of god and they happen to have the idea in their heads that if they do that a lightening bolt might strike them down or something &#8211; may have something to do with how jesus reacted the last time he caught people doing that at a temple&#8230;</p>
<p>My problem isn&#8217;t that you are slagging off the mormons, it&#8217;s that you feel the need to slag off non-existent policies and actions. There is plenty to slag off in the churches history, from their not allowing black men to hold the priesthood until far after the civil rights movement to the act of banning masturbation, which is ongoing and has led to teen suicides, or how about their gay reform programs? The ones that use ECT (electro convulsive therapy) to get the gay out of you? Or the fact that they throw transgender members out if they go for sexual reassignment surgery, but don&#8217;t if they only crossdress in their own home (but will get thrown out if they venture outside)? Or about how they treat gay people who are caught kissing on their property?</p>
<p>Those are good things to bring up.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Chris Hilliard </p>
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		<title>By: lezgetreal</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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