Progressive Women Protest Billboard for 7th Day Regardless of Male Bullies


 By Melanie Nathan The billboard, located at 4855 Miller Road, shows two cartoonish images of Obama wearing a Muslim turban and reads “PRESIDENT or JIHAD?” It also says “BIRTH CERTIFICATE – PROVE IT!” alluding to the conspiracy theory which claims Barack Obama was born in Kenya rather than Hawaii, which would disqualify him for the office of President.  The words “WAKE UP AMERICA! REMEMBER FT. HOOD!” appear on the bottom of the billboard. The sign belongs to a sleazy looking bloke (sorry my judgment)  used car dealer who describes his business as a “car dealership.”

“Since Fort Hood, I’ve had it,” owner Phil Wolf, displaying an educated command of the English language, told FOX 31 News Friday. “You can’t suggest things. You can’t profile. You gotta call a spade a spade.”    ”Everything I have read about Mr. Obama points right to the fact that he is a Muslim. And that is the agenda of what Muslim is all about. It’s about anti-American, it’s about anti-Christianity,” Wolf said.  (I call that treason talk, Mr. Wolfe not freedom of speech – !) 

The Anti-Defamation League condemned the sign, as did AM760 radio host David Sirota, who discussed the sign and interviewed Wolf on his program Friday morning. “It’s out of control,” Sirota said. “This conservative hatred of Barack Obama is out of contol, and this brings together all those strands of it: the racism, the anti-Muslim fervor. It’s one thing to criticize the president on health care, or Wall Street reform, or immigration. But this is outrageous. And I think it’s a fair question to ask why these questions about religion and ancestry are being directed so viciously at the first African-American President of the United States.” 

 “Are you a racist Wolf?” asked Ed Schultz on his ED SHOW, MSNBC TV?  “I am not,” answered Wolf.  I was unclear as to why Ed Schultz gave this apology of an American the time of day.  Did Ed think he would get a retraction from him? Or an explanation that made any sense?    Anyway I was much relieved to hear Mr. Schultz speaking to a woman named Pat on his radio show the next morning, and was proud of her resilience and her courage. 

 A  small group of dedicated progressive women, led by PAT have been protesting at the Wolf car lot since last Friday. They are organizing a big protest for Saturday Nov 28, starting at 10 am (“until we run out of volunteers to carry signs”).  This will probably go for at least 3-4 hours if the ladies’ past efforts are any guide. An internet  notice said “Would be great if a lot of men showed up, this time too.”

On the Ed morning show, she explained how a few women had pulled together and protested at the site of the billboard in question.  They braved the insults of a group of male bullies who went scurrying the moment men arrived to stand on the side of the women.  The minute the good men left the little cowardly bullies would reappear with their insults and threats. 

I thought Pat was amazing – a brave hero- standing before a group of adversaries for hours and enduring the insults.   She insists on continuing her protest and will be out there tomorrow with a big request for many more to join her side and that of the progressive women who show no fear.   

 The  ADL issued a statement calling the billboard an exploitation of the Ft. Hood shootings that is “divisive and offensive, and perpetuates hateful and harmful stereotypes about Muslims”, prominent conservatives have been silent thus far. “That could suggest that conservative leaders are afraid to confront the extreme fringe of their base,” Sirota said. “Or it suggests they actually condone this message. Either way, it’s disturbing.”

I ASK YOU – Help these wonderful progressive women protest the Racist Anti-Obama Billboard in Wheatridge Sat Nov 28 @ 10:00 AM (Visibility / Sign Waving)  -    They are getting some flack from the dealership. Having some men with them could help. The protesters and the sign are just 50 feet from I-70 Westbound so the protest has the potential to be seen by hundreds of thousands of Black Friday-Christmas Shoppers driving by on Saturday.  

Their message is – Dust off your old Anti-Iraq War signs, impeach, Stop Torture, whatever… and bring them Saturday. Show the public what Wolf is so proud of.  Help change the discussion back to the crimes of the Bush Administration, The protest is at Wolf interstate Leasing and Sales Location: 4855 Miller St Wheat Ridge, CO 80033  Map from the Wolf Website .   http://wolfwheatridge.com/index.asp?s=7772

To contact the organizer of the event directly email Saturday, November 28 from 10:00 AM – 1:00 PM patdunn4@comcast.net 

Hope this post gets a few over there to help/.  Have a Great Weekend and goodluck to you brave ones who speak for us all….

UPDATE Apparently Wolf had erected the Billboard in response to a challenge by a Denver  radio host Peter Boyles, who hosts the top-rated morning program on Denver’s KHOW-AM, Wolf who owns multi State car lots is planning on erecting more Billboards across the Country.

My thoughts: Where does one draw the line? While freedom of speech serves our essence as a nation, this language is deplorable both in intent and effect. We are a Country at War.  The proponents of this language are in essence committing a subversive and treasonous act when one considers all the circumstances. They accuse the President of the United States as being on the side of the enemy during a time of war? I would never have imagined seeing anything like this.  Its not mere lack of decorum or common decency – it is a sign that racial hate is so intensely pervasive that it has the power to cause Americans to turn into traitors.  Speaking of our President in the fashion has the significant stench of siding with the enemy.

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  1. We were pleased to be able to help Pat get the word out. Should be a very interesting day. Getting lots of response to the protest announcement posts and emails. Twitter and Facebook really help.

    We believe that every time the crazy right wingers trot out their ugliness, that the Left should throw it right back in their faces by reminding the voters that Bush, Cheney and their Torture Memo Lawyers renditioned captives, held them for up to seven years without charges, Tortured and sometimes murdered them. Torture and conspiracy to Torture are against our Federal Anti-Torture Laws.

    Also remind voters that the Bush-Cheney WMD Lies got over 4,200 US Soldiers killed and over 30,000 maimed for Nothing, as Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. Then remind voters of the horrors of Katrina. The damage the absurdly high gas prices did to our economy (caused by the illegal invasion of Iraq). You can go on and on. Hoist the GOP/Neocons on their own petard, with relish.

    The progressive community thanks Pat Dunn and her courageous women.

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  2. Jon

    The birth certificate is a secondary issue while Obama’s father NOT an American citizen is the central issue. Obama even has stated in his book written by Bill Ayers that his father was a UK subject and Obama claimed dual citizenship. End result Obama was never eligible to run for the office and he should be forced to Resign Now! Most white Americans do not believe Obama is eligible to hold office. The DNC along with the RNC are traitors to our country knowing that Obama was never vetted to allow an affirmative action president.

    • Age and Citizenship requirements – US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

      No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

      Nope it does not say a thing about the Presidents Daddy… and since he meets all of those other pesky criteria… I’d say he was pretty eligible to run… and since most of the votes Obama got where from White Americans… I’d say you are totally incorrect in your statements… and you really need to get over your silly bigoted self Jon and maybe brush up on your research before you comment here again..

    • romulus

      Natural born citizen, or citizen of the US at the time of it’s adoption…….THERE IS YOUR DISQULIFICATION.
      To put it simply, take out the old english comma’s (,), and read the sentence again! ONLY a natural born citizen can be a POTUS, and having a natural citizenship to england at birth DISQULIFIES him under the British nationality act of 1948, which is superior in internatinal law to any law relating to people born english that the united states have adopted, including the 14th amendment.
      You really have to stop spreading propaganda, and start talking about facts of law and who’s sovereignty has what claim to children born of mixed citizenry, such as Obama.
      I would appreciate it that, before you quote the constitution, to qualify your Usurper, you actually understood the simple english language, that it was written in! Comma’s, are BREAKS in sentences which allow a BREATH to be taken, while continuing the sentence. They are not meant to alter the meaning of a sentence. As I, and you have said, only a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, or citizen at the time of adoption, can serve, as POTUS! Read it over and over again, until you understand it for what it says, and nothing more.

    • Romulus where is Remus – Raised by the Wolf – you speak of citizenship? Speaketh you from the mouth of the beast – oh human raised by beast ? I have never heard such a load of piggy doodoo. as this ” citizenship to england at birth DISQULIFIES him under the British nationality act of 1948, which is superior in internatinal law to any law relating to people born english that the united states have adopted, including the 14th amendment.” Your English disqualifies you from commenting and your lack of understanding of the applicability of our Constitution to AMerica. Where do you think International Applies when it comes to defining our own citizens. Please if you have a point then explain in coherent English. Thanks;

    • romulus

      I’ll take a moment to comend you on your efforts to access goverment officials, and have them let you piddle in their ear for a good wrap up in the blog-o-sphere, so firstly, well done brown-tongue! Now to the matter at hand. According to the fallout which occurred between the new republic, and the english, certain measures were adopted to ensure that neither sovereign could steal the others citizens. In 1948, certain laws were again published concerning who had rightful ownership of citizens born to mixed relationships concerning english parents. This is especially important where America is concerned, because English politics and lifestyle are still considered abhorent to those loyal to the constitution. Infact, due to my being born an Australian, I am often branded a socialist due to the fact we are allied to the socialist england and her majesty’s politics. So, if you will allow me to continue, I have no reason to take you for a political ride, I have no need for any political gain, and my motivation is nothing more than the fact that I am sick and tired of people who are telling the truth (the birthers) being called every name under the sun just for defending the constitution in a diplomatic manner.
      Their diplomacy continues to fall on deaf ears, who’s owners repeatedly brandish the race card in some crude attempt to silence them.
      Here, you even attack me, for my knowledge on the subject, even though I have invested my own time to challenge both sides of the story. I have weighed up all arguments, and looked at all available proof, and independantly concluded that Obama is infact, a British citizen who became and Indonesian citizen, who has never produced a record of ever having re-naturalised to american citizenship.
      I have sited actual documents that clearly disprove the fact that obama was born a natural born citizen of the usa, including your constitution. No ‘ordinary citizen” can serve as potus, and you and everyone else know’s that. It doesn’t matter if one parent was american, and you know that. The birth anouncement are heresay documents at best, and you know that. And the birth certificate does not list a delivering doctor who can be matched to a hospital at the time of obama’s birth, and you know that.
      All things known, how can you say Obama is a natural norn citizen and elligble, under constitutional decree, to be president?
      It says, “Natural born citizen or citizen of the united states at the time of adoption of this (the one and only) constitution”. Thats why you are WRONG in your determination of the constitution, and YOU KNOW IT!

      Personally attacking me, or he birthers, won’t change the facts…. and if I can/have seen all the available facts that the MSM provided you, and the congress, to verify Obama, then, in my opinion, Obama is definately NOT QULAIFIED!

      Attack me some more though if you like, because it only shows just how discriminatory you and the other o-bots are, especially those who try hang this issue all on racism!

      ps………Remus died…..any questions?

    • Romulus, Why do you come to this site and give a psuedonym to Writers who are not afraid to reveal their identities, You keep saying “and you know it.” Truly I know nothing of which you speak. It makes no sense to me at all. I am not going to tout my law degrees. However I certainly will tout my common sense and here goes:
      Obama Born in the USA – proof = Birth Certificate= US citizen – no need for naturalization. His Father could have been from anywhere in the world and it would matter not. His mother was American and he was born on US soil. Have you read the Immigration and Naturalization Act? The US one – it applies to US law only and defines citizen – no other Country gets to compete with the soveriegn law of the US, Mate! He was born on US soil. Thats it! He is as qualified as George Washington, Abe Lincoln, Bill Clinton, Reagan the actor, – he is the legitimate President of the USA. You an OZ no nothing about Sovereignty of Nations. While OZ may still be in Buckingham Palace Shadows – th US is not. Plain and simply. I think you are confused and your fallacious research exists in some world beyond the USA. Maybe just in your mind. Anyway allow me to remember this is a site that you did not have to come to to spew your ignorance. SO please do not say I attacked you m- I defend my position. DONT come back if you cannot take the heat. I do not need to publish your comments – but I have and will do so – no matter how derogatory or rude your remaks. I find it delightful that you wish to come here to defend the Billboard and in doing so all you succeed in doing is dipalying the ignorance of the nmindset behond such rediculous notionsas portrayed on the Billboard. Oh yes PLEASE spell disqualified the ENGLISH way and not the OZ way… its not disqulified and nor is it QULAIFIED. Lol I wonder how it was spelt in your research. Anyway plese feel free to respond your post really made me laugh it was delightful.

    • Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as President of the United States:

      “ No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. ”

      The grandfather provision of the “natural born Citizen” clause provides an exception to the “natural born” requirement for those persons who were citizens at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. Most of these citizens had been born as British subjects before the American Revolution (or were born after the Revolution, but before 1787). Without this exception, ten subsequent presidents would have been constitutionally ineligible to serve.[1]

      Additionally, the Twelfth Amendment states that: “[N]o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.” The Fourteenth Amendment, adopted in 1868, defines a “Citizen” of the United States, but not necessarily a “natural born Citizen.” Its Citizenship Clause provides that “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are Citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

    • romulus

      I took the liberty of advertising this blog, and I also noted in my ad that you just happened to be gay…-.which means there is something alreay wrong with your brain for a start-! so alot of people might come along to say hi!. That being by-the-by though, I find it fitting that a memebr of a minority fringe group thinks that they have a better understanding of law in general than any one of a normal living nature…………that is, straight, god loving men and women who follow the law. Congratulations on the death of your line and seed though,……..knowing your stupidity won’t be inherited by a child makes me feel a little better atleast.
      Now back to the facts. You’re a lawyer? Well, how about we argue in a court of law regarding the facts? How about, you claim that I have infringed upon your rights, and the reason I do so is because i alledge that you are a liar in respect to the facts you have given to qualify Obama as potus. Oh, thats right, no court will hear the matter! Funny that isn’t it? If you don’t like the defamation, then charge me for it. Yes, I am defaming Obama’s character by alledging he is unqualified and NOT a citizen of the USA……..not a natural born or even an ordinary citizen as far as my evidence suggests.
      Why don’t you start a legal case against us all for damaging the reputation of the president? That way, we can call the evidence into account once and for all!

      Considering I am an australian, and your law has no governance over mine, so I can state, and feel comfortable in saying, that you are the ugliest gay woman I have ever seen, and infact, even a smashed crab has a prettier face than you have! Your hair looks like a toilet brush, and your coke bottle glasses don’t improve your sight, or the sight you are to me! Even if I were a chick, and horny as a dog in heat, licking your snatch would be about as satisfying as eating horseshit on goats hair.

      You know nothing about the law, in your own country or mine, and it shows in your reiteration of the same old flawed facts you present time after time after time……
      You could only hope to be half the legal mind of the Leo Donofrio’s of the world…..but alas, you’re about as smart as Pompei was when Julius marched the legions across the Rubicon…….you’ll end up running with the dog who leads you………..all the way out of the city, and away from everything you claim to love and cherrish about america!
      Just one question……..If Obama was Born a natural born citizen……….why does factcheck.org state that he was born a dual citizen? You can’t be a natural born citizen if factcheck says you were born english, now can you? NOW WHO’S LOL’ing, you f*ckwit!

    • Romulus, Thanks you for advertising this BLOG- the more hits we get, the more you are supporting our cause, because we will get higher advertising revenues. So from the bottom of my heart I thanks you. As regards your insults I take them from whence they come. Your English is sub standard, you cannot spell, your sentences make no sense and you know zero about how the American political or legal system works. So please keep coming back and making more of a fool of yourself in front of the intellectuals who visit our site and who will probably glance over you moronic nonsense anyway.

    • romulus

      It’s ok that you find my insults amusing.it only proves my case; that is, that you really have not got the intelligence to understand the common people. Thats ok though, we can move forward at any rate.
      My spelling, grammar, and punctuation may not be up to par, but I’m not the one trying to make a living out of it; and besides, I haven’t held a pen for many years, as I’d much prefer my pick axe and sluice (there’s a new word for you lesbo!)
      But lets just assume for a minute that my “english” is flawed……..is it to much for you to see what is meant by the sentences I have strung together? Of course it is, how silly of me….you can’t even determine the english language used in the constitution of the united states of america, so why should I be surprised at your incompetance when it comes to understanding the average comman man or woman?
      Yes, you are far too above our height to ever be bothered by the likes of us, and instead, you’d prefer to use us as political meat in the sandwhich to entice your lovers in government to come to bed with you…………..NICE!
      On the matter of knowing american politics, well, considering american politics have dominated the global political scene for at least the last 40 years, then, I find it rather blind of you to assume I/we know nothing about your system. The real fact is, you know nothing about our systems, which is why it was so easy for a muslim to become your president…know your enemy and all of that jive, you know!
      I’m glad you approve of my advertising your gay news site too…….all the godly folk will surely love your future points of view, and now they know who you lobby and pressure in the government too! I might be a future world leader myself one day……sure, I may not be totally qualified, but if Obama can do it and be loved by many, then imagine what I can do, especially considering I know all the strings to pull in politics……….peope like money, and are easily bought! Thats ok too, because with the amount of gold I’m pulling out of the ground, it will take me all of 6 months at todays prices to raise the total of Obama’s campaign funds all for myself, and by myself!
      Just because you don’t like getting your hands dirty (sic) for a dollar, doesn’t mean people like me who can are uneducated messes that can’t run a country through popular policy and agenda’s.
      So tell your mates in the whitehouse, the birthers are COMING!

    • Pat Allen

      Study up a little more Jon. Actually study a LOT more. Born in the USA translates to eligibility. And good for the brave group of women for standing up to ignorant, bigots who rely on lies and bullying!! Wish I was there to protest with them!!! They are the true Americans as they stand up for what is true, right, and free! Thank you ladies!

  3. Truthbknown

    Jon, The birth certificate is the primary issue! As Paula says, there aint no daddy. A person who is born to an undocumented person in the US can end up being President. Have you gone through all the previous Presidents to see who had ancestry from other countries. You may be in for a surprise. To some extent your fabricated argument may well make many more prior and future presidents disqualified. Get your facts straight before putting your clog in your mouth Sir. Clearly you fabricate law to mask your hate. That is what the sign is doing too., Do you think Americans are fools or believe your BS. The fact that Pres. Obama was elected by an 8 million majority show that Americans on an equal basis recognize his legality. You are a poor loser. The only ineligible President that I know of is BUSH. Maybe on that basis we can roll back history and recapture the 4000 plus American lives that were lost in Iraq because of his lie to the American people. But hen what can we expect from an illegitimate president/. Oh yes lets roll back BUSh and his tax cuts that broke us, and his inability to safeguard us against 9/11 when he knew it would happen. Jon to say most white american men is to say you live in a cloister with white american men – welcome to America 2009. You and Bush are the traitors and Cheney is your little devil who led the way to disaster. Now its time to heal this country and what part of that do you have a problem with?

  4. Shane

    Nice to see Ms. Nathan agree that Muslims are our enemy in this war on terror. “They accuse the President of the United States as being on the side of the enemy during a time of war?” Although, nothing on that sign would be considered treason under the law. She’s a nut.

    • I am happy to see Shane that you fell vitim to the trigger; I was not referring to the so called war on terror – that would have to include the homegorwns such as Timothy McVei who probably shared many of your beliefs. I was referring to the war created by GW Bush the meglomaniac. Now President Obama is saddled with a mess and the rhetoric on that Billbiard and what it portrays, the Birther crap is tantamount to siding with the enemy – the enemies I am specifically referring to are not all muslims as you suggest in your futile attempt to mince my words. . There are millions of muslims around the world who are not our enemey. I am referring to insurgents in IRAQ and the terrorists whi are based in Afghanistan who BUSH allowed to increase in strength when he went after saddam. Are you saying that all Iraqi people are our enemies just because they are muslim. By the way, coming from you, calling me a nut is a compliment, especialy when I reflect on the people and principles you support.

    • Shane you are a racist for calling all muslims terrorists. Its precisely that thinking that makes you one.

    • Sei

      Many Muslims are our allies in the war against Al-Qaida. Many Muslims, including many Iranians, stood behind American after 9/11, and even supported the invasion of Afghanistan. Things did not go wrong until the US invaded Iraq.

      Many hard working Muslims fight in our military today, and do so with honor. Many Muslims serve our nation with pride and with dedication. They see the same enemy in Al-Qaida and radical Islam as many non-Muslim Americans do. The difference is that they are also fighting for the heart and soul of their faith.

      Major Hasan was, from all evidence, psychotic and had been so for some time. What you, Shane, are doing is bringing about the creation of more men like him. By becoming a bigot against Muslims, you encourage those weak in their faith to take up arms against the United States and to kill innocent people in defiance of the Quran.

      What we need to do is encourage moderate Muslims to be vocally opposed to their radical brethren instead of trying to shove them all into the same fire and be done with it. Your racism- and the racism of many Americans- only fuels the terrorists.

    • Sei – it could not be stated more clearly or more correctly!! thanks so much for your refined and poignant input.

  5. Pat just sent me an email. I reached out to her after I wrote this post asking her to keep us updated. She did. She was very touched by our support and so mentioned us to the woment that showed up. So I am updateing the Post with our emails- In this way you can see when they will next be out there – I think it will be Sunday 29th – everyday … melanie your author

  6. Yasser

    Obama’s my man! Doesn’t matter whether he’s natural born or not.

    Obama’s my man! Why should any of usI care a damn about the Constitution? What’s the Constitution done for us?

  7. THIS SHOULDSETTLE THIS WHOLEARGUMENT:
    1857 opinion of Supreme Court Justice Benjamin R. Curtis
    In his opinion dissenting from the decision in Dred Scott v. Sanford 60 U.S. (19 How.) 393 (1857) Justice Benjamin R. Curtis wrote in considerable detail on this topic. His writing there is too lengthy to requote here in entirety; partially requoted, Justice Curtis wrote,

    The first section of the second article of the Constitution uses the language “a natural-born citizen.” It thus assumes that citizenship may be acquired by birth. Undoubtedly, this language of the Constitution was used in reference to that principle of public law, well understood in the history of this country at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, which referred Citizenship to the place of birth. At the Declaration of Independence, and ever since, the received general doctrine has been, in conformity with the common law, that free persons born within either of the colonies, were the subjects of the King; that by the Declaration of independence, and the consequent acquisition of sovereignty by the several States, all such persons ceased to be subjects, and became citizens of the several States, [...] .
    The Constitution having recognized that persons born within the several States are citizens of the United States, one of four things must be true:
    First. That the constitution itself has described what native-born persons shall or shall not be citizens of such State, and thereby be citizens of the United States; or,
    Second:. That it has empowered Congress to do so; or,
    Third. That all free persons, born within the several States, are citizens of the United States; or,
    Fourth. That it is left to each State to determine what free persons, born within its limits, shall be citizens of such State, and thereby be citizens of the United States.
    If there is such a thing as Citizenship of the United States acquired by birth within the States, which the Constitution expressly recognizes, and no one denies, then those four alternatives embrace the entire subject, and it only remains to select that one which is true.
    [...]
    The answer is obvious. The Constitution has left to the States the determination what person, born within their respective limits, shall acquire by birth citizenship of the United States; italics in original]

    However, this opinion pre-dates the Fourteenth amendment, which added to the constitution an explicit description of who shall be citizens, “making all persons born within the United States and subject to its jurisdiction citizens of the United States

    • romulus

      I read your quoted judgment, and still find it proves nothing in respect to Obama’s natural born citizenship.
      Stop blurring the edges, and realise that the four (4) concepts he mentioned do NOT allow cliam for natural born citizenship, but rather, assert that it is the determination of the state of birth to consider those people citizens, or NOT!
      The judge uses the term NBC once, and then refers ONLY to citizenship relating to birth on us soil in saying that “it thus assumes that citizenship may be aquired by birth”………..note “Citizenship”, and NOT “Natural Born Citizenship”
      It is clear you can’t understand legal judgements, or that you refuse to portray the real truth concerning the ruling you have cited.
      No matter how you look at it, Obama is unqualified to serve the United states as POTUS…….. Keep digging for defences though, because the more you throw out there now, the easier it will be to show real patriots how the o-bats manipulate the english language to suit their legal needs, and thus, ensuring they understand the law better than you ever hoped they could!

  8. Dor

    Romulus

    Indicating you are from Australia really helped me solve the mystery of your low IQ.

    Only in such a big country such as Australia an idiot like you could go on without being noticed or arrested for crime against humanity.

    You are probably sitting in a lonely ranch with only sheep to keep you company (you are the one who is cleaning their daily poop no doubt), no wonder you see Melanie who is an amazing lady as an ugly woman.
    You do not see humans that rejected you your entire life as attractive, let alone a strong and g-d forbid opinionated one of that.

    After you get off the pills, drugs, and alcohol that makes your daily life bearable please join the human race and till then go back to the hole you came out from; you make me gag.

    • romulus

      Research Sydney…………then Gold Fields………..have a nice day….

      ps…. are you saying my country of birth is second rate and uneducated? Put that in a letter to our prime minister, and the queen please! While your at it, go make an idiot of yourself at the embassy, i’m sure they’ll find your level of intelligence amusing! at least I didn’t hang sh1t on YOUR country, you racist clown! pps……..I’m a Hungarian, like George Soros……..LOL@YOU……..oh, I suppose hungarians are stupid too? RACIST ASSHAT!

    • romulus

      You voting for Obama explains your’s……..your shot mate!

    • I have family in OZ – very close family; educated abroad TG is your education is anything to go on. I must say that OZ has a really great education system and most people come out bright and articulate with a great command of the English language. So I cannot understand why you are so illiterate. You can barely put a sentence together; your spelling is atrocious. I wonder what happened to you and what part of the education available you missed. If you have some diability going on then I can only apologize for my harsh judgment. If not then Instead of wasting time on my lesbo postings and this site, why not take an online literacy course. Then you will have a better shot at representing whatever argument it is you are trying to make. Up to now I do not think you have done much more than make a fool of yourself.. I feel sorry for you and hope my suggestion helps…..

  9. Preston

    The man behind the sign is either an idiot, crazy or a racist (maybe all three). We won the election and now these sore losers will continue to spew their hate with lies. They remind me of the Birthers losers, who even “Fake News” Bill O’Reilly has smacked down like the true flies they are.

  10. No actually Romulus killed Remus with a shovel over a dispute about which one of the two brothers would get to name Rome…

    He also came up with the plan to abduct the women of the neighboring Sabine tribes for wives… But in the end of that story the Sabine women begged their Roman husbands and their Sabine fathers and brothers to accept one another and live as one nation… and they did.

    Romulus other claim to fame was that he spread the reputation of Rome as an asylum to all who desired a new life… in the Roman myth, Romulus was one who brought many small peoples together to make one great one… so Romulus, is all in all, a very poor Nom de Plume choice for one as obviously Xenophobic as yourself.

    Now if you read this blog with more then just an eye to coming here and defending what I think is somewhat indefensible position on Obama … you will see I don’t really love Obama very much at all… I think him disingenuous and duplicitous in his dealing with the LGBT community. I welcome credible straight allies in pressuring him to deal honestly with all citizens of this country.

    But to me your arguments just don’t make you appear very credible. Obama has made his Hawaii birth certificate available to the public and the Honolulu hospital where he was born has repeatedly confirmed his birthplace. Hawaii was a state when Obama was born… Obama was born in Hawaii… ergo Obama is a Natural born citizen of the United States. Yet supporter of this ‘Obama is not a citizen’ argument have gone to such lengths as to fabricate a fake birth certificate from Kenya just to “prove” their point.

    Everything else you have put forth in your argument is also showing me, that at best you put as much research into your arguments why Obama should not be president as you did into researching your choice of a pen name … and at worse that you have some very delusional and dissociative thinking going on…

    And makes me want to tell you if you really want to bring this man down you need to do it with the ammunition he is giving you in his performance as President of the United States, which IMHO has not been that good so far, and not just waste everyone’s time with more of this tinfoil hat crazy talk. Because in the end, most people will think you nuts if you continue with it, and come the next election folks like Ed Schultz will point to this Obama is not a citizen nonsense of yours as they attempt to discredit any legitimate point that might be made on Obamas actual performance as just more nonsense coming from wackos. All you are doing with this at present is selling cars for Mr Wolf and Ad time for Ed Shultz, but in the future the harm you will do to any credible opposition to Mr Obama will be multi fold.

    Now since your IP address is telling me you are not in the United States… but instead somewhere out in the Asian-Pacific region, more specifically from Windsor, New South Wales, Australia, I am wondering why it is you are trying to help get Mr Obama re-elected in 2012 with your continuation of this argument? Or for that matter, why you should even care to you who is the leader of MYcountry as I am sure there are probably liberal politicians in Australia you also don’t agree with as well.

  11. Sei

    You are most welcome.

  12. Sei

    Romulus,

    First of all, you seem to have about as much understanding of Roman history as you do the English language.

    As for the notion or the fact that the President has dual citizenship, I might point out that I know many a person who has dual citizenship and it does not disqualify them from being naturally born. You see, or you would if you had two functioning neurons, that a person may be the natural born citizen of the country where the birth took place- as in the United States of America- or may be considered to be a natural born citizen of a country due to lineage- as in, say, Germany. Given that I am of German descent, I can, at any time, claim German citizenship without compromising the fact that I am a natural born citizen of the United States. It is quite simple, really.

    Then again, a man with such obvious testosterone poisoning as yourself must have trouble so much as putting together enough neural strength to scratch your scrotum. It must be incredibly difficult to actually put together enough neural energy to come up with a decent and coherent argument regarding facts when your brain is so addled by testosterone you cannot even come up with anything original, coherent, and accurate to insult a person with.

    Incidentally, most gays and lesbians are having children, if they so wish. Our genetic material does not appear to be ending with us. However, given your problems with coherent thought, it occurs to me that you must be having a lot of trouble missing the larger target and most often hitting the smaller one. Of course, that is if you can actually get your withered member to stand up at attention for anything other than unrealistic and plastic pornography.

    But, thank you for telling your friends about our blog. The more hits we get, the more money we get and the more our servers will be able to hold.

    I just hope that they provide us with a more difficult target to hit. I mean, if this is the best that you’ve got, Romulus ol’ chap, then I fear I will have to walk away from this duel. I try very hard not to argue with people who have the mental capacity of a stunned stoat and the insult capability of a day dead rabbit.

  13. From Facrcheck.org
    Q: Does Barack Obama have Kenyan citizenship?

    A: No. He held both U.S. and Kenyan citizenship as a child, but lost his Kenyan citizenship automatically on his 23rd birthday.

    The Kenyan Constitution required Obama to choose whether to keep either his U.S. or Kenyan citizenship upon his 21st birthday, which was in 1982. But we initially missed that the Constitution provided him a two-year window for making that choice. So Obama did not lose his Kenyan citizenship until his 23rd birthday in 1984.

    Since Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1984.

    Now as for having Gays with Children… I have two… twins… conceived by artificial insemination…

    Since Pompei is a ruined city in Italy and not a person… I would imagine that would that be Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus… better known as POMPEY the Great you are referring too?…

    And to address Mels looks… myself I think she is kind of a hot cougar type… but then do I have a thing for powerful women

  14. Firstly I must thank Paula for the compliment and our mythical man for inspiring me to wear more make up next time I am photographed. (lol). Paula, I am having so much fun with this guy. I mean truly is he for real? He is amusing. I wonder if his ancestors were convicts from the the worst of the worst – banished from UK – because they were misfits even amngst the worst criminals. I really hope he answers this one. After all he did refer to himself as “common.” He keeps putting his paw in his mouth and making himself look more and more stupid. I reckon we play this game a little longer and then maybe put him out of his misery by ceasing our responses. But for now I must admit I am really enjoying it, especially the resulting compliments my from my gorgeous lesbian friend. So why not let him have more at it for a while – so I can get more praise from those whose opinions I so value. Now I have to think of some trigger to goad him. Its also fun speaking the same language as someone who does not understand the language, albeit the same language. Rather an odd feeling. Anyway – let me try this – I hope he chooses a good trigger, here goes;
    1. Romulus why not change your name to Ignoramus… (mmm Weak) here is another 2. Romulus please send us a photo of your gorgeous self. mmmmm okay okay heaven forbid here last try 3. Romulus it seems to me that everythign you have posted here can be summed up in one word. All you need have done instead of going to all this trouble was to say three words; Romulus is a Racist. WHat is your real name coward -?

  15. BTW I have two kids too. One adopted and another Aritifical insemination. We are power women.,

  16. In the 2006 Australian Census, 6,164 people considered Windsor the place they most likely call home. The average person is a youthful 34 years of age, and they have a very average weekly gross income of around $647 per week. Windsor folk that are (un)lucky enough to be on their way to owning their own home, found they had an average weekly mortgage of around $433 with the average house price in Windsor being around $645,000. For those too poor, smart, and/or young to buy into the great Australian dream of spiraling debt, the average rent in Windsor was around $200 a week. In terms of employment, 59.39% of people in Windsor were considered employable.Welcome to Windsor(2756)
    .
    Local Government Area (LGA): City of Hawkesbury City Council
    Distance from Sydney CBD: 46km (28.6 miles)
    Approximate size for this postcode: 426.1 km²
    Surrounding suburbs: Mcgraths Hill(2756)
    Other suburbs with same post code: Bligh Park, Cattai, Central Colo, Clarendon, Colo, Colo Heights, Cornwallis, Cumberland Reach, Ebenezer, Freemans Reach, Glossodia, Lower Portland, Maroota, Mcgraths Hill, Mellong, Mulgrave, Pitt Town, Pitt Town Bottoms, Sackville, Sackville North, Scheyville, South Maroota, South , Upper Colo, Wilberforce, Downs, Womerah
    Total

  17. Actually I do know quite a lot about your system of Government there in the land of OZ… I lived and worked… and I know this is going to get your conspiratorial panties in a bunch Rom… in Alice Springs for over a year as an employee of the United States Government.

    Also I do know just a thing or twenty about researching facts AND getting my hands dirty for a living… My doctorate is in history… and I am a trained archaeologist

    Now history has indeed shown us uneducated messes can come to power… the best example of that would be the Third Reich… Hitler had very little formal education but his National Socialist German Workers’ Party promised essentially the same cultural renewal you promise to bring should you rise to power.

  18. Sei

    Romulus,

    It is bad enough that they tell us never to bring a knife to a gun fight, but it appears that you haven’t even brought a knife and it appears that your hands are broken and tied behind your back.

    Given that the Birther and Tea Party movements are currently at each others throats, I somehow doubt that they’re on their way. In fact, I have a pretty good idea of just how that whole thing is going to play out as it slowly destroys the Republican Party and makes it impossible for them to regain a majority in 2010 and drops them all but into total minority status in 2012. There is no cohesion, no support for each other, and no apparent leader in any of them.

    Oh yes, the reason the courts will not ‘hear’ the case is because the courts have heard the case in preliminary hearings and have deemed the evidence provided to either be insufficient or manufactured. I would like to point out that, since the US and OZ have the same legal set up- Anglo-Saxon Common Law- that that should be something you would know rather well.

    Haven’t kept up with the news lately, have you?

    As for your ‘common man’ argument. It isn’t a ‘common man’ argument if it is believed by a small minority of individuals rather than the totality of the everyday person.

  19. romulus

    You researched your history……but your intimidation using PRIVATE information is borderline criminal.. My right to privacy is not something you should be violating……..but windsor is a nice place…..I was born there actually!

    Your right, why should I care about America? Except, that Australia has troops involved in defending your country right now.so I guess that gives me a bit of say where my governments involvement with your is concerned.
    As for obama and his birth certificate, try using the type of birth certificate he uses to qualify him to gain yourself a passport, or even a drivers licence. It won’t be accepted, so why should I/we accept is either?
    I grew up watching sesame street, so if my education is flawed, I have oscar the grouch to thank……….but in all seriousness, who are you to tell me anything about myself? Have I hurt you or damaged you in someway by showing the basis reasons for my opinion, even if I have had to defend myself every step of the way in the attempt to defend the constitution I have learned so much about through watching the global politics of the world. You know nothing about me, my family, or my country, and the reason for that is you as a whole believe I/we/my country are not worth your time! Funny, when you expect that your time should be worth something to us in return!
    Think well before you question an ally………….and never look a gift horse in the mouth, slave!

  20. romulus

    wow, it must be great to be you! lol……what a retard you are!

  21. romulus

    lol…..mine are 10 and 5………….and I had fun getting them here thanks lesbo!

  22. romulus

    you sound smart, for a dumb dumb…………alice springs is a desert……try living in adelaide or melbourne….or even sydney is nice…..screw bribane though!
    yes, for a dumb dumb, you can do the work, and even have common interests……..i just never bothered to want to make a living out of knowing everything about one thing, and nothing about anything else…….all dots connected allow the full picture to be seen.
    my grandfather was a nazi soldier in ww2………..so I think I know a little bit about politics, and how we got to be the way we are today. oh, before you scream racist abuse about my grandfathers service, my OTHER grandfather served under Montgomery.
    You might be a smart dumb dumb, but you still are no where near as good as you wish you were!

  23. romulus

    Yep….bet you didn’t know we Australians can buy houses in the USA for $30,000 and rent them out to you suckers for 500 a week? Pretty dumb to research my country, when we can BUY YOURS CHEAPER THAN YOU CAN!

  24. romulus

    Palin will run as an independant with Huckabee…and smash Obama in the next Poll! Independant President, republican Vice…………sounds like a great deal!

    i don’t care for your political parties agendas….I’m here for the constitution and the people who dies to have it etched in history as the greatest written document of modern history,…..too bad you wankers don’t see it the way I do…..Just burn it for all I care, it won’t affect my nations politics….but it will scfrew your dollar, and make it possible for global politics to influence you, rather than the constitution of the usa influencing them!

    Too easy….and that will be it for me on this sh1tty site……it’s a wonder you get any traffic here, considering the web layout is F***ED!

  25. romulus

    ps..we have a westminster system, you do NOT…………we are NOT the same!

  26. Since Obama has both a passport and a Drivers license… I’d say that argument is mote…

    Yeah Alice Springs is out there… but the ABC is the ABC no matter if you are watching it in downtown Melbourne or out in the desert.

  27. Sei

    Romulus,

    You are ranting, that indicates that you are very upset with what we wrote. Might I suggest you calm down, take a walk in crocodile infested waters perhaps? Especially before the foam coming out of your mouth shorts out your keyboard.

    I, for one, would love to see Ms Palin run as an independent. Independent candidates no matter how popular never win, and have a tendency of splitting the mainstream ticket that they are closest to in political platform. As for Mike Huckabee, have you actually caught the US news lately? This is a man who granted clemency to a criminal who killed four cops and raped a child. Huckabee probably cannot get elected chief rat catcher in Washington DC if he paid to have the election rigged.

    Oh, and Romulus, you have a Parliamentary system of Government with a President in the executive rather than a monarch. What you have for a legal structure is called Anglo-Saxon Common Law, which is common to nearly every single former British Colony including Canada and the United States. Common law places a certain amount of power within the Judicial branch of the country whereby precedent is considered to be quite important for the interpretation of law. Glad to know you actually know what the heck your judicial system functions on.

    BTW, if you actually want to discuss whether or not President Obama is qualified, that is one thing, but screaming that he is not allowed Constitutionally to be President is another.

    Of course, continue to spout your fascist ideology. I hate to say this, but you are just a blithering idiot with delusions of common sense.

  28. pat dunn

    damn — you ladies smoked romulus — what garbage pit was he found in?

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