Comments on: Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church’s Support For LGBT Rights http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/ A Gay Girl's View on the World Fri, 25 May 2012 01:23:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Guy DeWhitney's Heretics Crusade http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-52347 Guy DeWhitney's Heretics Crusade Sun, 20 Jun 2010 02:36:42 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-52347 <strong>The Next Phase of Islamification to hit Michigan: Police No-Go Zones?...</strong> I found your entry interesting do I've added a Trackback to it on my weblog :)... The Next Phase of Islamification to hit Michigan: Police No-Go Zones?…

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]]> By: Sei http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-26375 Sei Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:34:19 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-26375 Samantha, The supposed sin of homosexuality is hard to pin down in all the rewrites of the Bible. What can be said with certainty is that Jesus Christ never said anything about homosexuality even though some of those who third handedly commented about it may have. Saul of Tarses did not even go to Jerusalem to learn from the men who learned from Christ directly until long after he began his ministry. So, I wouldn't take what Saul wrote at anything worth repeating or using or basing my belief in Christianity on. As for who does and doesn't hate homosexuals, I do a lot of posts about nice churches who are open and friendly to the LGBT community. Samantha,

The supposed sin of homosexuality is hard to pin down in all the rewrites of the Bible. What can be said with certainty is that Jesus Christ never said anything about homosexuality even though some of those who third handedly commented about it may have. Saul of Tarses did not even go to Jerusalem to learn from the men who learned from Christ directly until long after he began his ministry. So, I wouldn’t take what Saul wrote at anything worth repeating or using or basing my belief in Christianity on.

As for who does and doesn’t hate homosexuals, I do a lot of posts about nice churches who are open and friendly to the LGBT community.

]]> By: Samantha http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-26372 Samantha Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:24:08 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-26372 Hi. I found this post while Googling something else. I just wanted to say that--most Christians, even ones who believe that homosexuality is a sin, don't hate you. Some might, sure. So might some atheists, or some Muslims, or some pagans. There are hateful people in every group. I can't say for sure why these churches decided to pull out of the charity (which is sad, IMO), but I believe they might have done so because in the New Testament, Paul warns Christians to separate themselves from other Christians who sin unrepentantly--not non-Christians who sin unrepentantly, but Christians who do. That may be the reasoning behind the churches leaving. Anyway, I just felt like pointing out that most Christians do NOT hate gay people. It is our desire that every person--man or woman, gay, straight, bisexual or transgendered--find redemption through Christ. One of the most basic tenets of Christianity is that Christ sacrificed himself for *everyone*. I'm sorry if other Christians have made you feel that this isn't the case. Hi. I found this post while Googling something else. I just wanted to say that–most Christians, even ones who believe that homosexuality is a sin, don’t hate you. Some might, sure. So might some atheists, or some Muslims, or some pagans. There are hateful people in every group.

I can’t say for sure why these churches decided to pull out of the charity (which is sad, IMO), but I believe they might have done so because in the New Testament, Paul warns Christians to separate themselves from other Christians who sin unrepentantly–not non-Christians who sin unrepentantly, but Christians who do. That may be the reasoning behind the churches leaving.

Anyway, I just felt like pointing out that most Christians do NOT hate gay people. It is our desire that every person–man or woman, gay, straight, bisexual or transgendered–find redemption through Christ. One of the most basic tenets of Christianity is that Christ sacrificed himself for *everyone*. I’m sorry if other Christians have made you feel that this isn’t the case.

]]> By: Nathan http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-26127 Nathan Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:19:31 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-26127 You forgot one church that is a member of Martha's Table that is not withdrawing over the ordinance - First Baptist Church of Kalamazoo. You forgot one church that is a member of Martha’s Table that is not withdrawing over the ordinance – First Baptist Church of Kalamazoo.

]]> By: Kate H. http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-35246 Kate H. Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:56:42 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-35246 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church's Support For LGBT Rights #lgbt http://bit.ly/6xXnyT (via @lgbtlife)</span></span> Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church's Support For LGBT Rights #lgbt http://bit.ly/6xXnyT (via @lgbtlife)

]]> By: Alex Horton http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-35247 Alex Horton Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:53:31 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-35247 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Purity trumps charity? RT @lgbtlife: Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church's Support For LGBT Rights http://bit.ly/6xXnyT</span></span> Purity trumps charity? RT @lgbtlife: Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church's Support For LGBT Rights http://bit.ly/6xXnyT

]]> By: Matt Dean http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-35248 Matt Dean Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:35:54 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-35248 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">http://bit.ly/6xXnyT /via @lgbtlife //also, the people with "agape" in the name of their church don't seem to know what it means</span></span> http://bit.ly/6xXnyT /via @lgbtlife //also, the people with "agape" in the name of their church don't seem to know what it means

]]> By: Matt Dean http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-35249 Matt Dean Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:32:06 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-35249 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">http://bit.ly/6xXnyT /via @lgbtlife //apropos of nothing, completely at random, the word "pharisaical" just popped into my head</span></span> http://bit.ly/6xXnyT /via @lgbtlife //apropos of nothing, completely at random, the word "pharisaical" just popped into my head

]]> By: Matt Dean http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-35250 Matt Dean Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:29:56 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-35250 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @lgbtlife Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church's Support For LGBT Rights #lgbt http://bit.ly/6xXnyT</span></span> RT @lgbtlife Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church's Support For LGBT Rights #lgbt http://bit.ly/6xXnyT

]]> By: trunksy http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-35251 trunksy Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:07:43 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-35251 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @lgbtlife: Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church's Support For LGBT Rights #lgbt http://bit.ly/6xXnyT</span></span> RT @lgbtlife: Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church's Support For LGBT Rights #lgbt http://bit.ly/6xXnyT

]]> By: James http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-25961 James Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:02:33 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-25961 Ah, what a wonderful world we live in, no? WHAT THE F**K!? How the hell do they think this is what there "god" would have wanted. Doesn't there "god" love everyone? I think the people of these churches should open there eyes and see that there not hurting the LGBT community, there hurting the people who rely on these charities! Its like pulling a blood-drive because there is something wrong with the floor! Maybe the LGBT community should step up and take the place of  these churches! --Lastpaw Ah, what a wonderful world we live in, no?

WHAT THE F**K!? How the hell do they think this is what there “god” would have wanted. Doesn’t there “god” love everyone? I think the people of these churches should open there eyes and see that there not hurting the LGBT community, there hurting the people who rely on these charities! Its like pulling a blood-drive because there is something wrong with the floor! Maybe the LGBT community should step up and take the place of  these churches!

–Lastpaw

]]> By: sandykidd http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-35252 sandykidd Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:54:44 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-35252 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @lgbtlife: Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church's Support For LGBT Rights #lgbt http://bit.ly/6xXnyT</span></span> RT @lgbtlife: Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church's Support For LGBT Rights #lgbt http://bit.ly/6xXnyT

]]> By: LGBT Life http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-35253 LGBT Life Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:51:56 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-35253 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church's Support For LGBT Rights #lgbt http://bit.ly/6xXnyT</span></span> Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church's Support For LGBT Rights #lgbt http://bit.ly/6xXnyT

]]> By: Melanie Nathan http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-25942 Melanie Nathan Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:02:17 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-25942 Yes, and bringing this back to immigration reform they think that we will get UAFA passed through - faith based support of reform. Need I say more...look at these churches and how they hate us. Yes, and bringing this back to immigration reform they think that we will get UAFA passed through – faith based support of reform. Need I say more…look at these churches and how they hate us.

]]> By: Sinbad J http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-35254 Sinbad J Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:15:56 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-35254 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church's Support For LGBT Rights http://bit.ly/5Mk9na</span></span> Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church's Support For LGBT Rights http://bit.ly/5Mk9na

]]> By: Chrissy http://lezgetreal.com/2009/12/kalamazoo-churches-pull-out-of-charity-over-one-churchs-support-for-lgbt-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-35255 Chrissy Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:15:15 +0000 http://lezgetreal.com/?p=23928#comment-35255 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @PaulaBrooks: "Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church’s Support For LGBT Rights " ( http://bit.ly/8oCTKk )</span></span> RT @PaulaBrooks: "Kalamazoo Churches Pull Out Of Charity Over One Church’s Support For LGBT Rights " ( http://bit.ly/8oCTKk )

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