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“Ex-Lesbian” Lisa Miller Fails To Hand Over Custody of Isabella To Janet Jenkins

Posted by: Bridgette P. LaVictoire on January 1, 2010.

01/01/10-by Bridgette P. LaVictoire
bilde And so it has happened. At 1pm today, Lisa Miller failed to hand Isabella to Janet Jenkins at Jenkins’ parents home as ordered by the courts. A missing person‘s report has now been officially filed, and the next step is for Judge William Cohen to issue his order. There are several possibilities that could occur should this go forward. According to the Uniform Child Custody Jurisdiction And Enforcement Act, the state of Virginia will have to execute the order to transfer custody from Miller to Jenkins, and given that this has not happened, Judge Cohen is likely to issue a bench warrant citing Miller with civil contempt of court. She can be held indefinitely on contempt charges until custody is transferred, and Jenkins and Isabella are reunited.

The Virginia and Vermont courts have repeatedly chosen to treat this case as with any other custody battle. The Supreme Court was asked to weigh in on it, but did not. Should the case continue to the Supreme Court again, it would more than likely pit the UCCJEA against the Defense of Marriage Act.

There is some information that Miller’s attorneys have assured her that the Virginia Courts are likely to rule in favor of her this time with regards to the order to hand over custody, and that is at the root of the request to Judge Cohen for a delay. However, it is unlikely that this would occur. Part of the reasoning behind the way that the courts have ruled on this case to date is because they do not want to have to deal with the can of worms that ruling against the UCCJEA would open. Specifically, if Miller were allowed to circumvent the court orders of Vermont, this would allow other states to ignore the court orders of other states and could create problems with regards to the court system as a whole. In part, this is why the UCCJEA exists. It is to prevent this kind of jurisdiction crossing during custody disputes.

In his order changing custody, Judge Cohen noted that Lisa Miller had already appeared to disappear as she had not been in contact with her lawyers in a month. Once Judge Cohen issues the bench warrant, it will fall to the the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the US Marshals Service to track down Miller and enforce the order.

A Federal Parental Kidnapping Protection Act (PKPA), also established national standards for the assertion of child custody jurisdiction within the United States in 1980. The Act does not explicitly state which is the proper state in which an initial child custody matter should be filed, but provides that the assertion of child custody jurisdiction by any State without consideration of the Act’s requirements does not provide a resulting “full faith and credit” in other States. Jenkins home

The Jenkins family called police after Miller failed to show up at their home in the Suburban Washington DC town of Falls Church, VA, who arrived at the soon after. According a police spokeswoman at the scene, an investigator from the Fairfax County Police Department’s child exploitation unit is currently investigating Isabella’s disappearance.

The FCPD said in a statement to LGR this afternoon, that if investigators believe a crime has been committed, they will obtain a criminal warrant charging Miller with parental abduction, and at that point officers would begin searching aggressively for Isabella. However currently, the Fairfax County Police Department was still regarding the case as a civil matter.

In all likelihood, Lisa Miller will be facing jail time, as will anyone who is aiding her in breaking the law. It is also likely that she will, by breaking the law, lose any possible custody going forward, and may even have trouble obtaining visitation rights. While there are many Christian groups who are vocally supporting Lisa Miller’s disappearance, they may find themselves under investigation for supporting a fugitive. Lisa Miller has been supported in violating the court’s orders by the Liberty Council and Liberty University, though it is not clear if they had anything to do with her disappearance.

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Peppermint Reply

January 3, 2010 at 2:47 pm

The only thing I have attempted to do is express an opinion. I have not intentionally tried to offend anyone or called their motives into question, so I have no idea where all of the rancor is coming from. It does no good to demonize people for simply expressing how they view things. The world is full of diverse people and diverse situations and we all can’t be expected to agree on everything. It’s easy enough to be civil with people you agree with but it speaks more to ones character how you deal with those with whom you disagree. I’ve even attempted to see things from Janet Jenkins’s point of view and though I can sympathize with her, I don’t support her position. Oh, and to make something else clear, I never accused Ms. Jenkins of child abuse, but merely attempted to point out what I considered to be serious error in judgment. Experience has taught me few minds are ever changed on boards like this, and that’s ok, but I had hoped to simply have a civil discussion.
- Sei
  
  January 3, 2010 at 3:10 pm
  
  If you had hoped for a civil discussion, Peppermint, then you should have listened when we pointed out your errors. The rancor you’re feeling from me is the frustration of having to answer the same point over and over again. You pointed out information which was already taken into consideration by the writer- ME- of this article and rejected as being false. You say ‘error in judgment’, and I say ‘how the hell could Ms Jenkins have done what she was accused of when she has not had visitations with Isabella for some time now?’. You are defending the decisions of a person who has rejected visitation for her former wife over and over again using the same dismissed or disproven points without listening to us when we state that you are wrong. Instead of listening to us, you have paraded around false information as if it were fact, and doggedly stuck to a point of view which was already taken into consideration by the judge in this case after years of his visitation orders being IGNORED!
  
  I do not mind civil discourse, but when I am talking to someone who ignores every argument made that does not fit with their decision, I get royally ticked off and frustrated. You expressed your views, but when they were countered, you clung to them.
  
  Judge Cohen made the decision to change custody after years of having his orders ignored and broken. He weighed the matter and chose. You can sit there and complain until you are blue in the face, but it does not change the fact that Lisa Miller has refused visitation no matter how much she has LIED about it to the Fundamentalist Media. Judge Cohen made the decision after weighing the potential damage of changing custody over the long term damage of denying Isabella her bond with her other mother. A bond, which, incidentally, was already a year in the making when these two split.
  
  You have used every single rejected argument made by Lisa Miller’s lawyers long after they chose to help her violate the law over and over again. So, excuse me if I am a little less than cheerful in having to say the exact same thing for the fiftieth or sixtieth time so far. You believed Lisa Miller’s lies and tried to point them out to us. There is a reason that they remained locked up on the Fundamentalists’ sites. That’s because they were LIES.
  
  Judge Cohen did not make the decision he did lightly, and he did not do so with glee. Stop acting as if this was a spur of the moment decision. You may disagree, but then again, I personally disagree with having let it get this far. I think he should have forced Miller to give up custody the moment it became clear that she was running to Virginia to try and circumvent our laws. I do not SAY that because it is not my place TO say that.
  
  And if I was demonizing you, Peppermint, you would know it. Trust me, you would know it. You see, you are busy trying your damnedst to sound like the victim here. I let your comments through, and I have the right to deny their posting as well. You haven’t been talking to some person somewhere, you have been talking to the woman who wrote this article, and quite a lot of the other articles on this blog. I report on quite a lot. Tomorrow, I get to walk down to the court house and see if I can get a statement from Judge Cohen’s office.
  
  Now, you can try and say all kinds of nasty things about how I’ve handled your comments, but I was nice about this in the beginning. Usually, by the time I have to repeat the same information to a person who is not listening on these boards by this point, I typically stop allowing them to post. So, either figure out that Judge Cohen made the best decision he could after years of having his orders denied, or stop trying to get us to see your point of view because it isn’t going to happen.
Peppermint Reply

January 3, 2010 at 1:39 pm

I am quite aware that Ms. Miller sought to deprive Ms. Jenkins visitation rights. That fact is clear. Consequently, Ms. Jenkins has had limited contact with Isabella. I know that. But, my only concern now, given this particular set of circumstances, is that Isabella will probably not fare well should she be uprooted from her mother at this stage in her life. It is also clear that parent-child bonding has already occurred between Isabella and Ms. Miller. No judge or legality has the ability to break that bond. It is irreversible. Can’t any of you remember being seven and how you felt about your parents? How easily would you have been able to accept a substitute? Would you have understood it if a judge told you that you now had to accept another woman as your mother? I might be way out of line here, but I’m beginning to think that there is a fundamental disconnect between how straight and gay people view parenthood. Heterosexual women (even women involved in polygamy), are not conditioned to ever consider that there might be another mother in their child’s life. They have no need to. Sure, there can be step-mothers, grandmothers, godmothers, and mothers-in-law, but only one mother. And, if Lisa Miller is truly now heterosexual, this is how she fervently feels. Lesbians, on the other hand, are uniquely positioned to accept the possibility of a child having two mothers. This is a concept completely foreign and unpalatable to straight women. I fear this is a yawning chasm that I’m not entirely sure can ever be bridged.
In closing, I can tell you that after having worked in foster care for many years that judges are not infallible. They make a lot of bone-headed decisions because the law is simply not equipped to handle the emotional impact of many of these cases. And, the legal decision is not always the moral or best decision.
- Sei
  
  January 3, 2010 at 1:57 pm
  
  Peppermint,
  
  I grew up in the court system, thank you very much. I grew up around judges and lawyers since I was younger than Isabella is now. I know that they are not infallible. You can sit there and whine about Judge Cohen’s decision, but Lisa Miller made the choice to break his orders over and over again. She has denied their child access to Janet time and time again. Oh sure, right now she’s saying “supervised visitation, I’m open to that”, which is a bald faced lie.
  
  The thing is, as of tomorrow, this becomes a moot point. This case will become a Federal kidnapping case, and that means that the second that Lisa Miller is convicted, she will not see Isabella again. The moment she became a fugitive, all appeals and all her hope of regaining custody in the future came to an end. Judge Cohen gave Lisa Miller more than ample chance of complying, and she said ‘no’.
  
  My aunt served as the warden of a women’s prison, and Peppermint, IF Lisa Miller is lucky enough to survive, she MAY be granted supervised visitation. That is, IF she gets out in time to see Isabella grow up. In all odds, Lisa Miller MAY get to see Isabella through a plexiglass window IF Janet Jenkins is willing and able to bring Isabella to visit her in jail.
  
  Your questioning of the decision by Judge Cohen would have been better served a month ago when he made the decision. The SECOND that Lisa Miller abducted Isabella, the issue of child custody became moot. Do NOT forget that. Right now, Lisa Miller- a woman who was institutionalized when she was a teenager and blames that institutionalization for her being lesbian- has abducted her daughter.
  
  And, yes, Lisa Miller is NOT heterosexual. All indications are that she made that announcement because she found a group who would help her keep her daughter to herself, and the rest she did out of a sense of abject self loathing. She is psychologically one messed up woman, and you are defending a fugitive- never forget that.
Peppermint Reply

January 3, 2010 at 12:25 pm

I’m sorry, but how can Judge Cohen truly be able to determine what the long-term effects or trauma this child will experience? I do know that I remember being seven. I ready my first book, “Treasure Island” and had dog name PD. I remember where we lived and how my bedroom looked amongst many other things. And, since my father died when I was very young, I know that I was very close to my mother and had anyone taken me from her and took me to another city to live with a person I barely knew, I guarantee you, I would have been devastated. Just to make myself clear, if the situation were reversed and Janet Jenkins had raised and bonded with Isabella and Lisa Miller sought to take her away, then I would take take Janet’s side. For the most part, I think that biology is a trump card, but there are situations that negate that trump. I recently read somewhere that bonding occurs not only an an emotional level but might actually affect ones chemical makeup as well. No judge can predict the long-term effects caused by attempting to break that bond. Again, my only concern is the well-being of this child, agenda’s be damned.
- Sei
  
  January 3, 2010 at 1:16 pm
  
  Let me see, Peppermint, Judge Cohen heard testimony from experts on child psychology about this case, and he has sat upon the Family Court in Rutland for longer than Isabella has been alive. I would say that he knows quite well what the damage would be. You, on the other hand, seem to not quite grasp that Lisa Miller has violated every visitation order demanded by Judge Cohen and FLED to Virginia to avoid them from the beginning. I am getting a little frustrated having to explain this over and over again. Judge Cohen weighed it. We aren’t talking about some judge who dropped off of Pluto and doesn’t know what he’s doing. We’re talking about a man who weighed expert testimony and weighed all the vile accusations which YOU have bought into. This mess has gone on long enough and Judge Cohen made his decision. In supporting Miller, you are supporting the rights of every parent who decides that kidnapping their child is more important than allowing visitation.
mike jeffries Reply

January 3, 2010 at 11:28 am

Gay or straight, parental abduction is the worst form of parental alienation — a destructive family dynamic where one parent damages, and in some cases destroys, a child’s normal, loving and healthy relationship with the child’s other parent. Educating parents, legal and mental health professionals about alienation is the best way to protect families from what this family is experiencing. To learn more about this subject please visit http://www.afamilysheartbreak.com.
Peppermint Reply

January 3, 2010 at 10:44 am

In my previos post I meant to write Janet Jenkins instead of Janet Miller.
Peppermint Reply

January 3, 2010 at 10:20 am

Trying to defend Lisa Miller is not my primary objective. I’m more concerned with the health and well-being of this 7-year-old child who stands the risk of being taken away from the only parent and family she has ever known. This concern has nothing to do with “right-wing” Christian ideology. And, since I’m not a practicing Christian, that is doubly true. I would hope that any decent, caring human being could see that taking Isabella away from her biological mother will have a profound affect upon her emotional well-being. Isabella is 7-years-old and knows who her mother is. While Isabella might eventually develop some affection for Janet Miller, it is unlikely she will ever view her as a “real” mother. Had these two women actually raised her together, then it might have been different, but current facts don’t bear that out.
- Sei
  
  January 3, 2010 at 10:40 am
  
  Peppermint,
  
  Judge Cohen has already weighed this issue. He has decided that continued custody with Lisa Miller is far more damaging than changing custody. Your complaints about this case have already been weighed and found wanting. You have relied upon the word of people who will print anything that they feel bolsters their case, including allegations which have been proven false. Your arguments are baseless, or have already been weighed by the courts. You are supporting a person who is a fugitive. You continue to ignore these facts. Sorry, but I really do not think you have any basis for an actual argument that would work here.
Peppermint Reply

January 3, 2010 at 9:48 am

From everything I have read, the time Ms. Jenkins has spent with Isabella has been sporatic and infrequent at best. I’ve probably spent time with the children of co-workers longer than Ms. Jenkins has spent with Isabella. Taking a bath with a child requires a lot more familiarity and a reasonable comfort level needs to be established. When I occasionally babysit for relatives, they have expectations that I will not present myself in the nude in front of their children and respect certain boundaries. And, those boundaries increase with the age of the child. So, yes, I do contend that for all practical purposes , Ms. Jennings is a virtual stranger to Isabella.
- Sei
  
  January 3, 2010 at 10:04 am
  
  Peppermint,
  
  You are failing to grasp that the allegations that she did this, or that there were trauma were investigated by the courts and found to be baseless. Of course, I am not surprised that you ignored that point since it does not jibe with what you’re trying to get at. Beyond that, Janet Jenkins is Isabella’s legal mother according to the courts and laws of this country. There are other cases where a father/mother has had sporadic or no contact with a child for some time only to be awarded final custody. Of course, since you are busy defending Lisa Miller and buying into the Reactionary Right Press’s distortion of this case, I would like to point out that you are not in possession of anywhere near all of the facts in this case.
  
  Sorry, but your attempts to defend a felon and fugitive are rather strained.
  
  Oh, and Peppermint, I actually know a lot more about this case than what is printed in the media. The thing is, not all of what I know I am at liberty to print. LGR is not a personal blog, but rather an LGBT News/Information/Advocacy blog. We do our best to maintain professional standards. I report and analyze more than I editorialize, and I make a concerted effort to make sure that my editorials are marked as such.
Peppermint Reply

January 3, 2010 at 6:25 am

Various news sources reported that after Isabella was forced to bathe with Ms. Jenkins the child became sick to her stomach and seemed traumatized. And as to how I know anything about this case, like most you, the only thing I know is what I read. So, my original comment stands that this was tantamount to forcing a 6-year-old to bathe with stranger. Be honest, most children who take baths with their parents have always done do, therefore, it induces no trauma. It would seem that we have finally entered that “brave new world” when a biological parent can be stripped of her rights and her child given to what amounts to a virtual stranger by an order of the state. The state is not the highest authority here, motherhood is. Do not every underestimate what a mother will do in protection of her child(ren).
- Sei
  
  January 3, 2010 at 8:18 am
  
  These allegations were investigated by the courts and found to be a fabrication of Lisa Miller. The people who printed them did not print that information. Of course that information damages their credibility, doesn’t it? And, Peppermint, you talk about there being visitation already, and yet you talk about Jenkins being a stranger. What you have here now is a problem with your consistency.
Gina Reply

January 2, 2010 at 11:40 am

Heterosexual parents should be just as concerned with this case as Homosexual parents. As the cultural definition of family adapts to modern society, more citizens fall under the classification of parent: it’s clear that a primary caregiver could be deemed a parent regardless of biology. Step-parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, siblings, spouses, partners, etc – all of them – play varying roles in regards to parenting, so this is a ‘parent/child’ issue as well as a GBLT issue, and I hope that parents everywhere take notice! I hope this gets sorted out before there is long term damage to the child. She deserves and has a right to have both her mom’s in her life. I hope Ms. Miller comes forward so she doesn’t deny herself a future with her daughter. That would be awful! (but breaking the law and withholding the child is NOT the answer! And it’s not good parenting!!!)
soleil10 Reply

January 2, 2010 at 7:55 am

We were told day after day that gay couples were loving and committed parents, not like those heterosexuals marriage a la Britney Spears. Oh no! we were lied to again.
I am shocked
- Sei
  
  January 2, 2010 at 8:38 am
  
  Soleil10,
  
  You judge all by one. That is erroneous. That is like saying that all children are well behaved because you meet one child who is an angel. It is like saying that all men are nice because you know one who is a saint.
  
  Sorry, but there are always exceptions, and always percentages that are not nice.
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Peppermint Reply

January 2, 2010 at 4:31 am

While it is true that in normal circumstances a parent bathing with their 6-year-old would not be considered indecent, the situation changes significantly when the “parent”, has no biological connection and hasn’t seen or had any meaningful relationship with that child.. This would be tantamount to a stranger bathing with a 6-year-old which raises all kinds of alarm bells. One has to wonder why Janet Jenkins could (or would) not see that Isabella was uncomfortable. Again, that should raise alarm bells. Obviously, Isabella had to be coaxed (or forced) to removed her clothing since this is not something the child sought out or even wanted.
- Sei
  
  January 2, 2010 at 8:36 am
  
  Peppermint,
  
  Given the source of the information regarding this accusation, I would not trust it. The problem in custody battles is that the nasty ones often involve and include a lot of falsehoods which are made to make the other side look bad.
- AJ
  
  January 2, 2010 at 4:20 pm
  
  How on earth do you have into to the nature of Isabella’s reaction to the bath? How can you presume she was coaxed or forced to do anything? Were you there?
  
  At any point, I don’t know of many court situations, with all of child experts willing to testify, that they would place a child in danger with some sort of abuser. To bring up charges now that the court has already waded through and deemed not truthful, relevant, etc., is slanderous. The media perhaps left it out because the courts did not grab ahold of the story either.
  
  As far as “biological” goes, this COUPLE was artificially inseminated. Only one of them could carry the baby. I’m sure that Ms. Jenkins supported that child as much as any expectant parent would.
  
  It’s not the media’s job to blindly print stories without fact checking.
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Matt Reply

January 1, 2010 at 7:00 pm

Ridiculous. Jenkins has no biological rights to this child. Regardless of what you believe about homosexuality and marriage, unless she legally adpted this child(which I understand she did not) then she has no rights whatsoever to her. This would be like a stepmother(father) getting full custody of a child they had nothing to do with over a fully participative biological parent.

On a second note…I’m continually amazed by society’s recognition of homosexuality as something they are born with. It is a disorder…and stems from abuse, neglect, loss of self, sometimes curiosity, etc. Amazing how many so called “lesbians” are in fact bisexual, and then later decide they are no longer lesbians.
- Sei
  
  January 1, 2010 at 7:05 pm
  
  Matt,
  
  Your argument means that every single non-biological father who is married to a woman who conceives via donated sperm has no rights to the child of that relationship. Your argument would mean that a lot of fathers would be denied their children. Sorry, but try thinking that one through. The law states that the child is the product of the union or marriage irregardless of the genetic parents of the child.
  
  As for the rest of your comment, I might point out that the majority of lesbians do not suddenly find themselves going after men later in life. Given that Ms Miller did not “renounce homosexuality” until after she had fled to Virginia and gotten together with Liberty Council, it is highly doubtful that she really renounced homosexuality. Instead, she said it in order to ensure that she could get their support in denying her former wife custody.
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Eric Smith Reply

January 1, 2010 at 4:15 pm

There are some major details missing from the AP’s account of this story. First as usual the AP leaves out the part about Lisa being open to supervised visits and that she allegedly caught Janet naked with her daughter. And the part about her daughter exhibiting ‘sexual’ behavior following the incident.

Now I guess this is official- a decent woman who had straightened her life out and was caring for her daughter has gone into hiding because of a highly politicized and apparently corrupt court system. Best needs of the child? Wishes of the girl’s only biological parent? Not relevant I guess…
- Sei
  
  January 1, 2010 at 6:05 pm
  
  I somehow doubt that the report from Life Site is accurate. As a note, links in comments tend to be deleted or they send messages into the Spam folder. The attempts to portray Ms Jenkins as some sort of pedophile when the courts have already rejected this argument is tantamount libel and slander.
- Eric Smith
  
  January 1, 2010 at 10:39 pm
  
  No one slandered anyone. These were some of Lisa Miller’s allegations that the Old Left Media refuses to print… and if by some strange chance that little girl is ripped away from her only known biological parent in fulfillment of some perverted political ideology, Gay Rights will be set back 30 years.
- Sei
  
  January 1, 2010 at 11:33 pm
  
  No, Mr. Smith, if they have been alleged in court and dismissed, then they are slander if continued to be reprinted. The “Old Left” Media often refuses to print allegations which are made in the case of divorce due to the fact that those allegations are often erroneous, misleading, and designed deliberately to distort the record in court. The “Reactionary Right” Media, if you will, are more than willing to print distortion of the record if it suits them. The site you linked to is familiar to this blog, and I hate to break it to you, they are about as accurate as a warped arrow. We’ve dealt with them before. One of their stories was so full of distortions that it took getting in touch with the local police to actually set the record straight.
  
  As for “setting back gay rights thirty years”, actually, by not enforcing the law as it is stated, it sets back both LGBT and Women’s Rights about that much. Your argument, like Matt’s, is erroneous in that a parent is defined as being the other person in the union whether or not they are biologically the parent. There are many infertile men and women out there who are the parent of a child who is not biologically theirs, and yet they are granted parental rights due to the fact that they are part of the union that had that child. So, by not enforcing this law, they would also be setting back parental rights quite far as well. The arguments on the Christian Right concerning this case all do more damage to the society that they claim to uphold than following the law would. Of course, when you’re talking about groups who are more than willing to shelter and harbor a fugitive and lawbreaker, somehow I doubt they care if the law is broken or not. The problem becomes that, eventually, the same laws they flaunt will be the ones that they demand be upheld for them, but by breaking or damaging those laws, they ultimately weaken themselves and hurt more people in the long run.
  
  I will point out that Liberty Council and Liberty University are after their own political agenda, and always have been. They have turned this case into their pet little project to try and prove the damage that the LGBT community does to society. It has never gone their way, and now, Lisa Miller will be going to jail, and she will, if apprehended, shall never get to see Isabella again. I hate to tell you this, but this case has done more damage to the cause of the anti-LGBT groups than they have to the LGBT groups. The flaunting of the law regarding custodial kidnapping has angered a lot of women who do not care whether or not there are two women in the middle of this case. The majority of women are for upholding this and side with Jenkins.
  
  Of course, this is all ignored by people just like you who do not seem to grasp that there are a lot more in play than seems noticeable at first.
- Melanie Nathan
  
  January 2, 2010 at 12:20 am
  
  A Parent bathing with a child is hardly indecent. Not in my book anyway. It is perfectly normal to be naled in your own home with your child there. What is the big friggin deal -it that were the case at all. In any event fabrication of child abuse is proof of parental alienation. Its that very bs accusation that caused Miller to get the child taken from her. It is SICK to call a parent of your child an abuser if you know its not true.
FAEN Reply

January 1, 2010 at 4:11 pm

Yet ANOTHER reason why GLBT Americans need to be protected Federally!
- jane
  
  January 1, 2010 at 11:37 pm
  
  Yet another reason why mentally ill homosexuals should not be adopting children it’s all wrong and perverted
- Sei
  
  January 1, 2010 at 11:46 pm
  
  A) She’s not mentally ill.
  B) Miller is the criminal here.
  C) Isabella was conceived while her parents were in a union, making them both her parents.
  D) Try actually reading what I wrote and knowing something about this case before commenting, sil vous plaiz.
- Marvin
  
  January 9, 2010 at 8:48 am
  
  THANKS VERMONT FOR RUINING AMERICA WITH CIVIL UNION CRAP.
- Sei
  
  January 9, 2010 at 9:12 am
  
  Marvin,
  
  It is amazing how people are so ignorant about the way America use to be. America was never some golden era of warmth and light. The America you think that Vermont ruined never existed. Instead, Vermont is living up to the principles that this nation was founded upon while you and yours seek to ensure that America never lives up to what the Founders believed.
- FAEN
  
  January 2, 2010 at 12:20 pm
  
  JANE–Gays are not the ones who are trying to withhold constitutionally guaranteed rights from a group of Americans. You guys are. You are part of a dying breed. Youre on the wrong side of history when it comes to the GLBT community. There WILL come a time where gays are treated equally under the law and then like now, we’ll be adopting children and living our lives. And I have a feeling thats exactly what you dont want people to see because that would mean all the hatred and bigotry youve been taught, that you teach and pass on is absolutely wrong. What a kick in the crucifix that will be!
- Justin
  
  January 2, 2010 at 10:47 pm
  
  Gay or Straight it doesn’t matter much when there are children involved. I’ve gone to court over 12 times since my son was little, over full custody and of course money. I think full custody is just another term for more money, and here’s some resentment. For the past two years I sit patiently on the sidelines. His mother took him away when she married, disappeared off the face of the planet. Just recently received notice from the State to start paying child support to the, OK missed 1 1/2 years due to the fact no address, phone, or email. But she still got her digg, stating I have never paid, Court for that April 2010, and I have plenty of proof.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJUwc-ESzN0
  
  http://www.justinwright.us
  
  Here is a YouTube video I did for my son, so when he types his name into YouTube or Google, Bam there he is and he finds me too, and all the work I did to try and reach him, I will be posting all of the emails, receipts, court papers, everything, because you never now what a woman who kidnaps your son tells your son. Sad too, because we got along great for the first 12 years of my sons life, until she married

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