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		<title>By: Unbelievable Case of the Vicious Playing the Victim &#8211; Prop 8 Supporters Cry Foul - Lez Get Real</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unbelievable Case of the Vicious Playing the Victim &#8211; Prop 8 Supporters Cry Foul - Lez Get Real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Prop 8 antagonist who caused my child, HC,  horrible pain and suffering. See our story at HC    http://lezgetreal.com/?p=24823 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Prop 8 &#8211; Emotional, San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders &#8211; describes his transformation - Lez Get Real</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prop 8 &#8211; Emotional, San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders &#8211; describes his transformation - Lez Get Real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tweet The Trial Tell Twitter To Trend Prop 8 &#8211; Challenge Everyone to Tweet at Two - Lez Get Real</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweet The Trial Tell Twitter To Trend Prop 8 &#8211; Challenge Everyone to Tweet at Two - Lez Get Real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Melanie Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your response Lauren.  Yes I get your point and you are right.  Yest its not only for fence sitters because many people in our own community who are not directly impacted by specific issues  show no interest in coming out in support of these issues.  Its always a core group that does the work.  We need more of our own to come out to protest, donate, volunteer, write comments.  I do however get a sense that there is a little bit of power up going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your response Lauren.  Yes I get your point and you are right.  Yest its not only for fence sitters because many people in our own community who are not directly impacted by specific issues  show no interest in coming out in support of these issues.  Its always a core group that does the work.  We need more of our own to come out to protest, donate, volunteer, write comments.  I do however get a sense that there is a little bit of power up going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loveeveryone - with such a nice name - it seems odd to call Lauren the B word, however well disguised. That said my sense is you may be misinterpreting Lauren.  It seems to me that she is merely noting what the counter argument COULD be. I do not read into it that she is agreeing with taht point. She says &quot; Dont expect the oppositionto have a heart.&quot;  denotes that she has an opposite view to the stated counter argument. So I think you have completely misread her. Lauren if I am right or wrong please comment,   Thanks, Melanie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loveeveryone &#8211; with such a nice name &#8211; it seems odd to call Lauren the B word, however well disguised. That said my sense is you may be misinterpreting Lauren.  It seems to me that she is merely noting what the counter argument COULD be. I do not read into it that she is agreeing with taht point. She says &#8221; Dont expect the oppositionto have a heart.&#8221;  denotes that she has an opposite view to the stated counter argument. So I think you have completely misread her. Lauren if I am right or wrong please comment,   Thanks, Melanie</p>
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		<title>By: loveeveryone</title>
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		<dc:creator>loveeveryone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a selfish Beotch Lauren. We are all different. You better not EVER subject your kids to a divorce even if you are unhappy. Family is about people who love each other and is not always traditional. I hope your heart falls out and your children get a chance to be raised by someone who REALLY loves them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a selfish Beotch Lauren. We are all different. You better not EVER subject your kids to a divorce even if you are unhappy. Family is about people who love each other and is not always traditional. I hope your heart falls out and your children get a chance to be raised by someone who REALLY loves them</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you should cater to our enemies at all, since the argument is an important perspective for fence-sitters to learn. Just don&#039;t be surprised when the hateful pastor twists your words around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you should cater to our enemies at all, since the argument is an important perspective for fence-sitters to learn. Just don&#8217;t be surprised when the hateful pastor twists your words around.</p>
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		<title>By: Prop 8 News Round Up From Yesterday - Lez Get Real</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prop 8 News Round Up From Yesterday - Lez Get Real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Melanie Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lauren thanks for the comment.  Well we cannot cater to our enemies. But we must cater to our potential friends. So many people have no idea about the extent and pervasiveness of discrimination against LGBT families in this Country; Immigration, Taxes, Social Security, employment military and more.  The most powerfull weapon we have are our stories and the more they are told, the more opportunity for a  tacit community conscience that will certainly transform the next generation.

That said my daughter was adopted from an orphange in Vietnam as a baby.   Having children has a set of diverse circumstances. I do not think that the counter argument would work in HC&#039;s instance - because in essence she has much more of life&#039;s opportunities here with me.   That said, the counter argument does not dissolve the factual existence and the fact that these are children.  The counter argument also ascribes to the idea that LGBT  people cannot be good parents. There is NO counter argument. Not one that has any merit anyway..... Thanks for your opinion and please feel free to continue the discussion, melanie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lauren thanks for the comment.  Well we cannot cater to our enemies. But we must cater to our potential friends. So many people have no idea about the extent and pervasiveness of discrimination against LGBT families in this Country; Immigration, Taxes, Social Security, employment military and more.  The most powerfull weapon we have are our stories and the more they are told, the more opportunity for a  tacit community conscience that will certainly transform the next generation.</p>
<p>That said my daughter was adopted from an orphange in Vietnam as a baby.   Having children has a set of diverse circumstances. I do not think that the counter argument would work in HC&#8217;s instance &#8211; because in essence she has much more of life&#8217;s opportunities here with me.   That said, the counter argument does not dissolve the factual existence and the fact that these are children.  The counter argument also ascribes to the idea that LGBT  people cannot be good parents. There is NO counter argument. Not one that has any merit anyway&#8230;.. Thanks for your opinion and please feel free to continue the discussion, melanie.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, the easy counter-argument is that if you had never subjected your daughter to an &quot;artificial family&quot; in the first place, she wouldn&#039;t be confused and distressed by others upholding &quot;traditional&quot; values. Don&#039;t expect the opposition to have a heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, the easy counter-argument is that if you had never subjected your daughter to an &#8220;artificial family&#8221; in the first place, she wouldn&#8217;t be confused and distressed by others upholding &#8220;traditional&#8221; values. Don&#8217;t expect the opposition to have a heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Wow. Really powerful story: #Prop8 Plaintiff Testimony - How Prop 8 Hurts Children? - A real life example http://bit.ly/4Y7DMq&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: bbl_nk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbl_nk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lezgetreal</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;New on LGR Prop 8 Plaintiff Testimony – How Prop 8 Hurts Children? – A real Life example:    By  Melanie Nathan  I... http://bit.ly/51Nmqi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Melanie Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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