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SVU tweeters ask Neal Baer to bring back controversial scene
28/02/2010 by JR Russell
The kiss we have been waiting for? REALLY?
Because Law & Order SVU‘s Executive Producer, Neal Baer tweets, a lot of this discussion has taken place over twitter. So much of it, in fact that it lead a poster on an SVU fan forum to declare that, “Twitter is ruining the world”.
Yesterday, I posted that Kathy Griffin, the featured guest star for the SVU episode “PC” had tweeted that her kiss scene was pulled by Dick Wolf, the show’s creator. I’ve been unable to verify it any further than that, so all I’m saying is Kathy Griffin said it. We’ll see if it’s true on Wednesday.
As of right now, here are some of the messages Neal Baer is receiving on twitter from fans.
SVUconnoisseur @NealBaer So what’s this about the Mariska/Kathy kiss scene being taken out because of homophobia? Pardon my french but thats bullshit!
Gigi_Barros @NealBaer Hi…about the kissing scene next ep…why didn´t you just take the last part of it??
bellatrix_w_89 @NealBaer I think it’s pathetic that you’re letting the fans run your show. You have lost so much respect from so many people, its sad.
bellatrix_w_89 @NealBaer You should have just cut the line instead of the whole episode if you were that worried about it.
junebuggnc @NealBaer hearing rumors you cut the kiss…why??? The kiss wasn’t the prob, it was Liv’s line “to stay outside”. losing fans!!!
MissMandi Say it ain’t so, @nealbaer! Let the fans B the judge of the episode in its entirety! u’ve already released it, what harm can it do now? #svu
Im_s0_3008 @NealBaer The only reason you’re geting angry tweets about THEKISS is that the AO shippers wanna continue livng in their imaginary world.
ariddlefortwo @NealBaer Include the kiss in PC!! We’ve all been waiting for it!!
Opinion is split on whether or not the comment is homophobic. The split does not appear to be defined by sexuality — with some straight people agreeing that it is, and some gay people thinking that it is not, and vice versa. Some people want the entire scene to remain, because they believe there is nothing wrong with it. Others want it cut so Olivia Benson‘s character no longer warns her colleague about the lesbian in the room.
What do you think?
Largely, I am not a fan of censorship. I believe that people should be seen for who they are. Homophobes should be allowed to present as homophobes so we all know who they are. I also believe it’s my right to speak out against those people and the things they do to hurt gay people.
However, if people are not homophobes, and want to prevent being seen as such, they should listen to the gay community when they make a mistake like SVU have made in this episode. And I believe it’s a mistake. Neal Baer is a good man whose show has raised awareness of all kinds of vital social and political issues. I wouldn’t like that to end.
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Nicole
March 3, 2010 at 9:39 pm
As part of the LGBTQIA community, I am outraged by homophobia, I even started a gay straight alliance at my high school because homophobia there is so bad it isn’t even funny. I HATE homophobia with a passion, and I would be the first one to say something if I thought it was homophobic at all, and I get mad at the smallest thing. SVUConnoisseur on twitter, the one who replied to Neal Baer, first one on the list is me. I’m proud to say it too. This has been taken way too far.
Gigi_Barros
February 28, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Hi. I´m one of the people who asked Neal to cut just the final line of the scene. I´m not gay but I really think the last line is a little homophobic and it doesn´t sound like Olivia too…So I think that the only part that should be cut off is the last one…the scene will work very good without it! I wanna see the kiss in the episode because it would be something that really happened (in the show) and I wanna see how this is going to affect the course of the show….
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MissMandi
February 28, 2010 at 6:13 pm
You say “We find offensive” as if you can speak for a collective unit. You can’t. Truth is everyone is split on how to feel about it because several of my lesbian friends say it’s not offensive, and some say it is, while most of my heterosexual friends say it isn’t offensive yet some do.
NBC doesn’t release sneak peeks for anything other than a bump in ratings. Controversy has always gotten higher ratings. If anything should be cut, it’s the stereotypical remarks Kathy Griffin makes in reasoning why Mariska Hargitay’s character is gay: her job?? Really now? A woman who chooses to be a cop has to be gay? And no one finds THAT offensive??
CanuckJacq
February 28, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Ok I speak as part of the people who do find it offensive.
And you have a point about the laundry list of stereotypes. Unfortunately the entire scene is riddled with problems.
And I don’t mind giving SVU a boost in ratings if it means our voices are heard. It’s an important conversation for society to have.
And now, I’m off to celebrate the mother fucking gold medal. Catch you all tomorrow.
MissMandi
February 28, 2010 at 4:25 pm
If the straight community is split in opinion, and the gay community is split in opinion, who is it you suggest they listen to??? Which half of the gay community is right then? If it’s split, aren’t they both right? Why not do as my tweet suggested, let the episode be seen in its entirety BEFORE we make judgments.
And since when does NBC/Dick Wolf listen to what the fans want??
CanuckJacq
February 28, 2010 at 5:42 pm
I would say listen to the LGBTQ community and take into account all views expressed, on the merits of the arguments. Listening doesn’t mean strict obedience, it means listening.
Why should we wait? If they choose to air these clips ahead of time, we have every right to speak out against something that we find offensive. As I said in the post, they have the right to be offensive as well, but not the right to escape judgement and opinions. If they don’t want feedback, they can stop releasing “sneak peaks”.
E.
February 28, 2010 at 2:04 pm
While I think NBC were COMPLETE IMBECILES to think that line would go unnoticed by the LGBTQ community (or even straight people with common sense), they are even bigger idiots to take the entire scene out. They listened to our our complaints, but in a half-assed manner. People seem to think that we are as equally bothered about KG kissing Olivia as we are about Olivia’s homophobic remark. I mean, really? I knew how Olivia would react, I just wasn’t expecting the remark that came with it. Olivia was never homophobic before. Why did they have to start now?
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Lorii
February 28, 2010 at 11:44 am
The only reason people are having a problem with the comment is because they’ve seen that particular clip and not the whole show. Liv was refering to Babs Duffy tendency to hit on everything that moves. SVU has numerous episodes where they show gay men and women not hitting on everyone. But because they are “players” in the gay community the writers decided to create a character bases on that. They have made plenty of male and female straight characters obnoxious flirts so why can’t they have one that’s gay?
Crazy
February 28, 2010 at 11:39 am
Had Babs done the same to Elliot i’m sure the reaction would have been the same. Lesbians got mad because they have based their ideas on a stereotype of Olivia, put their by themselves, and it wasnt brought to fruition in this episode. Sour grapes. Besides would you want to be kissed by KG gay or straight? The end.
CanuckJacq
February 28, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Maybe it would have been. Maybe he would have assumed a woman making a pass at him would make a pass at anyone.
Elliot has also never been as sensitive to the gay community as Olivia has.
What she said at the end was way out of character. It just wasn’t Olivia. And not because I think Olivia is a lesbian (what an argument!) but because I’ve been watching since day 1 and I have a good sense of how Olivia deals with people.
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Emma
February 28, 2010 at 11:22 am
That final line wasn’t homophobic – in 11 years the character of Olivia Benson has never been portrayed as a homophobe, and I’m pretty sure that if the character of Babs Duffy was a MAN that had grabbed her and kissed her out of the blue like that she’d be saying the exact same thing to the female officer who was about to enter that room. As such, cutting that line is ridiculous.
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