
By Melanie Nathan, 3-25-10. Controversy is building as a monument in the form of a changeable video presentation is planned to include lesbians kissing. The monument, erected in 2008, opposite Berlin’s memorial to the Six Million Jews, is dedicated to the thousands of homosexuals persecuted by the Nazis. However now there is an outcry that lesbians will take the place of the current homosexual men on display.
The monument in question is a concrete slab which showcases a video through a window, currently featuring two men perpetually kissing. Every two years the featured video changes and from May viewers will be able to watch a video of kissing women, portraying lesbians.
Whereas this appears to be a rare example of male gay vs. female lesbian discrimination; that is not the case. Apparently the outcry has a different platform. A group of Holocaust experts and scholars contend that a memorial representing lesbians distorts what actually happened in the Holocaust, where there is apparently only proof that homosexual men were targets of Hitler’s extermination and no proof that lesbians were also targeted.
An attempt to maintain ‘historical truth’ as the scholars su
ggest has been the impetus behind a letter campaign to Berlin’s openly gay mayor, Klaus Wowereit and Culture Minister Michael Neumann. A decision is pending as to whether or not the exhibit will display the lesbians will be kissing for the next two years.
Research that the persecution of lesbian women by the Nazi regime was not comparable to that of homosexual men, may well be correct, yet the intent of the monument is to end discrimination of any kind and supporters of the lesbian display believe that it does not matter that Hitler may not specifically have targeted lesbians, as explained by a plaque on the memorial.
The Nazis sent as many as 15,000 gay men to concentration camps in addition to the many millions of Jews, political opponents, gypsies, Jehovah’s Witnesses and others whom the targeted for extermination.
Interestingly in 2008, When the Memorial was first introduced, concern was expressed about having a gay related memorial. Here is the excerpt from an article by Pink News in the UK, written back in 2008.
“Germany has made a mistake by dedicating a memorial to the gay men who were victims of Nazi oppression, a leading Holocaust scholar has claimed. Israel Gutman of the Yad Vashem Institute in Jerusalem said that the Nazis only targeted German gay men, and that they were the victims of political battles within Hitler’s National Socialist Party rather than a campaign of homophobia.
“The location was particularly poorly chosen for this monument,” Mr Gutman told Polish newspaper Rzeczpospolita.“If visitors have the impression that there was not a great difference between the suffering of Jews and those of homosexuals, it’s a scandal.”
He claimed that the German people “understood the immense scope of the crime of the Holocaust which they had committed, But this time, they made an error.”The first openly gay Mayor of Berlin opened the new memorial to the homosexual victims of Nazi oppression earlier this week.
Klaus Wowerit was joined by representatives of the International Gay and Lesbian Association (ILGA) and the federal minister for culture and media.
The homosexual victims of Nazi Germany remained excluded from the public process of remembrance of past injustices until recent times and were denied compensation for their suffering under Nazi rule.
It is estimated that 45,000 to 100,000 German homosexuals were arrested under Nazi rule between 1933 and 1945.
Up to 10,000 of them died in concentration camps. Many survivors, far from being liberated, were transferred to prisons.
The laws used against gay people in Germany remained on statute books until 1969.
It was only in 2002 that the German parliament issued a formal pardon for any gay people convicted by the Nazis and in 2003 it approved the construction of the memorial.
The new memorial is situated in Berlin’s Tiergarten Park, close to the Brandenburg Gate and opposite the Jewish Holocaust Memorial.
It consists of a four metre tall grey rectangular block.
One side has a small opening through which viewers can see a black and white art film scene of two men kissing.
A simple kiss could land you in trouble, reads the inscription.”
By Melanie Nathan
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Madeline
June 20, 2010 at 6:05 pm
While it’s true in that many countries laws against male gay behaviour are far more strict and oppressive than laws against lesbianism (even to-day), I would submit that this represents a pattern of making us invisible, not tolerating us. The Nazis felt no need to kill lesbians because they could easily just shut down our culture and let us wither and die (as a great-aunt of mine did in Danzig). The relative lack of slaughter perpetrated on lesbians is thus in my view entirely insufficient to sustain the argument that we were not persecuted.
S
June 20, 2010 at 7:48 pm
One can also argue that lesbians were sometimes put into groups like “asocials” and persecuted for other reasons. Of course not with the same systematic malice as gay men. Equating that is indeed distorting the truth. But so is claiming that they were save.
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Gerard Koskovich
March 29, 2010 at 8:56 pm
There is no historical evidence that the Nazi regime singled out lesbians as such for internment in concentration camps. Conversely, there is abundant evidence that lesbians suffered other forms of targeted persecution under the regime — including the complete destruction of the lesbian emancipation movement, of public lesbian culture and of lesbian small businesses such as bars and cafés. The harm represented by those forms of persecution may not be as grave as that suffered by pink triangle internees in the camps, but it was harm nonetheless, and we would do well to remember it. From my perspective, the video of lesbians kissing is therefore a perfectly appropriate option for the Berlin monument.
Melanie Nathan
March 29, 2010 at 11:33 pm
this is very insightful and helpful to this argument. Thanks you so much for commenting on our site, Melanie.
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Lauren
March 26, 2010 at 1:54 am
And this isn’t persecution?
“The Nazis believed women were not only inferior to men but also by nature dependent on them; therefore, they considered lesbians to be less threatening than male homosexuals. The Nazis regarded women as passive, especially in sexual matters, and in need of men to fulfill their lives and participate in sex. Many Nazis also worried that the more explicit social affection between individual women blurred the lines between friendship and lesbianism, making more difficult the task of ferreting out “true” lesbians. Finally, the Nazis dismissed lesbianism as a state and social problem because they believed lesbians could still carry out a German woman’s primary role: to be a mother of as many “Aryan” babies as possible. Every woman, regardless of her sexuality, could serve the Nazi state as wife and mother.” http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?ModuleId=10005478
Melanie Nathan
March 27, 2010 at 3:57 am
Thanks for the very informative comment, much appreciated. Melanie.
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