This is what Natalie Johnson looks like, thanks to an interview at KSAT and a screen cap over at Jezebel. Ms Johnson looks rather masculine, does she not? Going on her appearance, it would be easy to just deny her access to women’s changing rooms and restrooms.
Johnson was fired for being a religious tyrant and trying to demand that someone else follow her religious beliefs. Specifically, she harassed a transgender teenager who was dressed as a girl and who was shopping for clothes. She is filing a complaint with the Federal government, but she is going to have a hard time proving that she was discriminated against because of her religious beliefs.
Not helping her case, of course, is the fact that Johnson told KSAT “I’ve made my choice the other day … I refuse to comply with this policy.”
The incident is pretty straight forward. The decidedly clean-shaven and male-looking Johnson stated “I made sure to keep a close eye out on him because he was shopping for women’s clothing.” As reported, the teenager was wearing female clothing. When Johnson saw the young woman heading towards the women’s dressing room, “I had to just straight forward tell him, ‘You’re a man,’ and of course that made him, that really got him steamed.” The teenager’s friends then tried to explain to Johnson that the young woman is, in fact, female, and that Macy’s allows trans people to use the appropriate facilities. Johnson remained adamant, her manager was called in, and she was fired.
Johnson went screaming to Liberty Counsel. These are the same people who defended Lisa Miller in her attempts to keep Janet Jenkins from visiting the daughter that the couple had, and spread unfounded rumors that Jenkins was a child molester all the while harboring a child molester, one Linda Wall, in close association with Lisa and Isabella Miller.
Macy’s will not comment on the filing.
Johnson showing that she has about as much grasp of the Bible as she does about biology went on to claim that Macy’s was violating her Christian beliefs by having all of their employees appreciate the diversity of their customers. Johnson stated “There are no transgenders in the world. A guy can dress up as a woman all he wants, that’s still not going to make you a woman.”
Jezebel notes that:
You may not be familiar with the Biblical passage that says, “Thou shalt only admit women born with female genatalia into the women’s fitting room.” In Deuteronomy 22:5 it does say, “A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this,” but if you’re going to strictly adhere to that passage you probably can’t work at Macy’s anyway. A few lines later it says, “Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven together,” and “Make tassels on the four corners of the cloak you wear.” The entire clothing department is in clear violation of these rules!
It is also forbidden for a woman to go outside the house with her head uncovered, or for women to wear pants. In fact, Johnson, who is wearing pants throughout that entire interview, is violating the very passage of the Bible that she claims bars someone from being trans.
Of course, Mathew Staver of Liberty Counsel went on the fear mongering run saying “Macy’s has essentially opened women’s dressing rooms to every man.” Which it really has not. Despite claims that trans women are still men, most transphobes ignore the fact that the majority of trans women are attracted to men. They also ignore how insanely difficult it is to peek over a stall door or sneak a peek at a woman in a dressing room. So far, there have been no reported cases of anyone who is transsexual, transgender or claiming to be one of those actually spying on women in those places.
Really, that scenario exists only in the minds of those who are trying to justify their beliefs.
For her part, Johnson violated about a dozen different provisions of the Bible in her interview.
(Oh, and I do mean she looks masculine…I had to do some more digging to find out that was Johnson and not the trans woman she harassed.)