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Marriage Equality Opponents Sound Incoherent Over Court Ruling

Marriage Equality (Rings)

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It was a bad day for those opposed to same-sex marriage. In fact, it was one of the worst days they could have had. From Republicans to their backers, the news out of the Supreme Court was not good, and now they sound like they just found out that Santa Claus is really just a jolly fat man towed by four giant hogs.

The Mormon Church leaders were not happy with the decision by the US Supreme Court regarding Prop 8. Their leaders stated “Many Californians will wonder if there is something fundamentally wrong when their government will not defend or protect a popular vote that reflects the views of a majority of their citizens.” And by many, they mean those few who are still saying they oppose same-sex marriage. While they may not like the ruling, the majority of Californians now support same-sex marriage.

The statement continued on saying that “In addition, the effect of the ruling is to raise further complex jurisdictional issues that will need to be resolved.” We are not sure what, exactly, those are, but they seem to involve…something. They went on “The Church remains irrevocably committed to strengthening traditional marriage between a man and a woman, which for thousands of years has proven to be the best environment for nurturing children.” Which is why they are pushing to force all men who knock up a woman to marry her, and to end divorce, and putting their money behind that.

The Mormon Church has faced withering criticism over their decision to push Prop 8 and other anti-gay legislation through their front group- the National Organization for Marriage.

Bryan Fischer, of course, went on a rant claiming that he was now regulated to steerage-class (for those who do not know, steerage is…nautical I think. Yes, the lowest decks of a ship. Y’know, those old timey references don’t really work these days.) Additionally, he claimed that straight people were second-class citizens and that “They’ve done to us exactly what they were falsely accusing us of doing to homosexuals.”

As Ron Popeil says, but wait, there’s more! Liberty Council’s Mat Staver said that the states should just ignore the Supreme Court’s ruling- just like a ruling to uphold slavery like Dred Scott or a ruling which “alters the laws of gravity.” Incidentally, the states didn’t ignore Dred Scott, and the Court isn’t going to rule in favor of altering the laws of gravity.

He went on to say “You can’t redefine marriage into something that it’s incapable of being, it’s incapable of being two people of the same sex.” Unfortunately for Staver, the last five decades have seen at least three different alterations of the definition of marriage in this country.

Staver, earlier today, said:

Marriage predates government and civil authorities. No civil authority, including the Supreme Court, has the authority to redefine marriage. Marriage was not created by religion or government and is ontologically a union of one man and one woman. For any Court or civil authority to think it has the authority to redefine marriage is the height of hubris. Deconstructing marriage will hurt children and society. While today’s decision on DOMA did not redefine marriage, it has provided the foundation on which to do so. Today’s decision is the equivalent of the 1972 contraception decision involving unmarried couples and the so-called right to privacy on which the 1973 abortion decision in Roe v. Wade was constructed. Today, the Supreme Court has damaged its image, lost legitimacy, and set in motion considerable harm to society and to the State of the Union.

Ever notice that they keep harkening back to Roe v. Wade. This is because they erroneously believe that this is the way that they can win against same-sex marriage never quite getting that marriages- straight and gay- are provided by the government, not the private sector. This is the inverse of abortions.

Furthermore, marriages may predate civil authority and government, but it wasn’t until the rise of the Greeks that we saw marriage being between one man and one woman.

The National Organization for Marriage’s Brian Brown started to sound like he was going incoherent. He stated

Obviously it’s a loss to say that the federal government has no right to define marriage as it’s always understood it is just legal chicanery. It’s untrue. It’s a bad decision.

We’ll fight on forever. A culture can’t exist in the absence of the simple truth that there are differences between a mom and a dad and a husband and a wife. It’s like the law saying two plus two equals five.

“Hear me! Men like Prince John and Rottingham must be stopped! Stopped from taxing us into poverty! Stopped from taking what is ours! If we stand up to them all together as one, we can win the day! We shall go on to the end. We shall not flag or fail. We shall fight on the seas and oceans. We shall defend our isle, whatever the cost may be. We shall never surrender. Then they shall say of us: “Never have so many owed so much to so few.”- Robin Hood, Men in Tights. That is exactly what Brown sounds like right now.

Michele Bachmann, outgoing Representative from Minnesota, said:

Marriage was created by the hand of God. No man, not even a Supreme Court, can undo what a holy God has instituted. For thousands of years of recorded human history, no society has defended the legal standard of marriage as anything other than between man and woman. This will undermine the best interest of children and the best interests of the United States.

As House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said, “Who cares?”

American Family Association’s Tim Wildmon mourned:

We are deeply saddened by today’s decision to not only allow but encourage same-sex marriage in our country — a country that was founded on biblical principles. We mourn for America’s future, but we are not without hope. Our next line of defense is to vigorously protect our religious liberty. The homosexual lobby and agenda is running rampant across America, and is even pervading our elementary schools. The judicial activism that is being demonstrated is deplorable as the Supreme Court is imposing its will on the people and legislatures of the fifty states in our United States of America. Now, we must warn against the coming persecution, the barrage of criticism and the aggressive action of the homosexual agenda to indoctrinate and change the thoughts and convictions of Americans to accept this lifestyle as the new normal. In addition, the trend of classifying statements that have a biblical foundation as ‘hate speech’ is one that AFA will do everything in its power to prevent.

We are trying to figure out how they are being prevented from practicing their religion. You see, there are still churches out there and people who are very racist despite it being nearly fifty years since the end of Segregation in the South, but they haven’t given up yet.

And finally, Cardinal Timothy Dolan really wasn’t happy:

Today is a tragic day for marriage and our nation. The Supreme Court has dealt a profound injustice to the American people by striking down in part the federal Defense of Marriage Act. The Court got it wrong. The federal government ought to respect the truth that marriage is the union of one man and one woman, even where states fail to do so. The preservation of liberty and justice requires that all laws, federal and state, respect the truth, including the truth about marriage. It is also unfortunate that the Court did not take the opportunity to uphold California’s Proposition 8 but instead decided not to rule on the matter. The common good of all, especially our children, depends upon a society that strives to uphold the truth of marriage. Now is the time to redouble our efforts in witness to this truth. These decisions are part of a public debate of great consequence. The future of marriage and the well-being of our society hang in the balance.

Which truth? Cardinal Dolan, like the rest of these Religious Right Wingnuts, can’t stand the idea that Christianity is not what they think it is. There are now many Christian faiths which support same-sex marriage, and what these men are doing is trying to impose their religious beliefs on others. That is call Theocracy. What these men and women want is to restrict people’s religious liberty all the while complaining that their religious liberty is the one being restricted.

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/06/mormon-church-criticizes-supreme-court-rulings-on-gay-marriage/

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bryan-fischer-says-anti-gay-activists-now-second-class-citizens-mat-staver-likens-doma-case-#sthash.ZrZ9eZSx.dpuf

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